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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:05 am 
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Scirocco comes with steel freehub and Zonda C17 comes with aluminum shimano freehub.

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This is as of 2018? Per specs from 2017, Scirocco has aluminum hub http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/0 ... o_2017.pdf

Perhaps this is the reason of weight discrepancy? 2018 model comes with steel (white ceramic coating) hub hence its heavier than advertised?

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You have to look at the exploded views. CAM-FH-BUU015X1 is steel and FH-BO015X1 is aluminum.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:21 am 
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What's the material for Campy freehub on the Zonda's..?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:26 am 
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robertbb wrote:
What's the material for Campy freehub on the Zonda's..?


It's aluminum. See page 129 http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/0 ... o_2017.pdf

I'm trying to find out whether there was an update on 2018 Scirocco. There are no part # on the hub. It's white :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:32 pm 
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If your freehub is white its aluminum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:42 am 
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And therefore your wheels are heavier someplace else... :?

I was tossing up between Zonda's and Scirroco's (both C17). Went with Zonda's because the rim is just much more highly engineered - MoMag and Dynamic Balance. Hubs are better too. They aren't anywhere near as stiff as my Shamal's but are a very, very good training set. If you can still swap them, I would.

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robertbb wrote:
And therefore your wheels are heavier someplace else... :?

I was tossing up between Zonda's and Scirroco's (both C17). Went with Zonda's because the rim is just much more highly engineered - MoMag and Dynamic Balance. Hubs are better too. They aren't anywhere near as stiff as my Shamal's but are a very, very good training set. If you can still swap them, I would.


Scirocco wheels are engineered with dynamic balance like Zonda per specs from http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/0 ... o_2017.pdf

The question is - what is "ultra-linear geometry?

I was looking as Shamals Mille but it's $850. USB bearings must very nice.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:18 am 
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Arent the scirroco's just Campag's version of the Quattro (same width/profile etc) yet the Quattros don't use rim tape? At least the 2013 Quattros I had didn't...


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mpulsiv wrote:
robertbb wrote:
And therefore your wheels are heavier someplace else... :?

I was tossing up between Zonda's and Scirroco's (both C17). Went with Zonda's because the rim is just much more highly engineered - MoMag and Dynamic Balance. Hubs are better too. They aren't anywhere near as stiff as my Shamal's but are a very, very good training set. If you can still swap them, I would.


Scirocco wheels are engineered with dynamic balance like Zonda per specs from http://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/0 ... o_2017.pdf

The question is - what is "ultra-linear geometry?

I was looking as Shamals Mille but it's $850. USB bearings must very nice.


I have a set of Shamal C17's too. I must say, don't bother with the Mille (unless black brake track is *that* important to you). Braking on the C17's is superb - far better than the Zonda C17's. The wheelset is only marginally lighter (about 75 grams) but is a metric a**load stiffer. I can easily push both front and rear Zonda rims onto the brake block with my hand - it takes a heck of a lot of force on the Shamals to get anywhere near the block, they really are that tight. USB bearings is a bonus.. can't honestly say I notice that so much over the bearings in the Zonda.

(The Scirroco's don't look balanced at all - unless the extra material is *inside* the rim for aero purposes. That might explain the lack of momag...)

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I decided to keep them after all. I have always been training and racing on stiff wheels (e.g. 24/28 spokes) and didn't expect the Scirocco's to climb that well. I was blown away as how proprietary G3 lacing pattern and low spokes can perform that well. These wheels definitely make my races interesting with effortless attacks. I can't imagine what Bora 35 and 50 is capable of now!

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