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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:15 pm 
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Bike Components.de have released their own product, a 1370g full carbon clincher.

https://www.bike-components.de/en/wheels/bc-flechtwerk-wheelset/

Carbon Fibre is braided/woven (reminds me of TIME's construction method) then laid up in a mold and injected with resin (RTM).

Might these be the next chinese carbon clincher killers?
I'm staying outside of the EuroZone so the 19% VAT discount that I get to enjoy make these a really attractive deal!


Freehub Compatibility:
Shimano freehub body: 8-/9-/10-/11-speed Shimano/SRAM (Road)
Note: Assembly of 8-/9-/10-speed cassettes on Shimano freehub bodies requires a 1.85 mm spacer.

Technical Information - Rim:
Type: bc Flechtwerk 45
Dimensions (ETRTO): 17-622
Inner Width: 17.5 mm
Outer Width: 24 mm
Depth: 45 mm
ERD: 555 mm (from spoke head to spoke head)
Valve Hole Diameter Presta (6.5 mm)
Material: 3K carbon

Technical Information - Front Hub:
Type: bc Evo Road front
Over Locknut Dimension: 9 x 100 mm quick release
Body Material: aluminium

Technical Information - Rear Hub:
Type: bc Evo Road rear
Over locknut Dimension: 10 x 130 mm quick release
Body Material: aluminium
Freehub Body Material: aluminium
Freehub Body: 20-tooth ratchet system, 18° release angle

Technical Information - Lacing:
Font Lacing Pattern: radial
Rear Lacing Pattern: radial (l), 2-cross (r)
Spoke Type: DT Swiss Aero Speed / J-bend / bladed (1.8-2.3-1.2)
Spoke Length: 266 mm (front), 268 mm/272 mm (rear l/r)
Spoke Material: stainless steel
Nipple Type: DT Swiss Pro Lock standard / inverted
Nipple Size: 12 mm (length) / 1.8 mm (diameter)
Nipple Material: aluminium

Approved For:
Weight Limit: 100 kg rider weight
Air Pressure (max.): 9 bar (23 mm tyre), 8 bar (25 mm tyre), 7.5 bar (28 mm tyre)
Recommended Tyre Width: 23-28 mm

Features:
- machined braided carbon fibre rims made in Germany
- lightweight hubs with a ratchet freehub, both made in Germany
- DT Swiss aero spokes and inverted nipples for optimal aerodynamics
- lightweight quick release with a titanium axle
- logos are a subtle grey by day and reflective by night

Colour Index:
carbon-reflex:
- Rim: 3K carbon with reflective anthracite logos
- Hubs: black
- Spokes: black

Contents:
- 1 x bc Flechtwerk 45 Evo Road wheelset (front and rear)
- 2 x bc titanium/aluminium quick releases
- 2 pairs of Swissstop FlashPro Yellow King Cartridge brake pads
- 2 x rolls of Continental Easy Tape High Pressure rim tape
- 2 x 266 mm spare spokes for front
- 1 x 264 mm spare spoke for rear left
- 1 x 268 mm spare spoke for rear right
- 1 x 1.85 mm cassette spacer
- 4 x spare nipples
- 4 x spare washers

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:30 pm 
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Nice. Hope they do some deeper ones soon too.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:15 pm 
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Looks interesting! Any details on the braking/ brake track?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:33 pm 
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1 comment from the video on the site...

"We kept optimizing and improving until we were able to say, Now this wheel is as good as other wheels on the market." - awfully ambitious motto to follow when trying to re-invent the wheel (literally). no disc brake version, so not in my wheel house. but at double the price of "offshore" wheel options out there, it's nothing too special. the glow in the dark decal is a neat idea.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:50 pm 
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Just based on the fact that they are made in Germany and look almost identical to the Schmolke rims as well as have the same 45mm depth, I'd guess these are coming from the same machine.

There are a few companies that are now doing variations of filiment winding for rims. I can think of 3 companies making them for at least 5 "manufacturers" who are branding them as their own. We've been working with one that does a wide range of depths with good weights at really good pricing. Just as an example we'll be building some on carbon-ti hubs with CxRays that will be around $1350 per set with weights ranging from 1180 grams for a clincher set capable of daily rider use. We've been extremely happy with the ones we've been testing so we're really looking forward to doing more with them.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 pm 
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madcow wrote:
Just based on the fact that they are made in Germany and look almost identical to the Schmolke rims as well as have the same 45mm depth, I'd guess these are coming from the same machine.

There are a few companies that are now doing variations of filiment winding for rims. I can think of 3 companies making them for at least 5 "manufacturers" who are branding them as their own. We've been working with one that does a wide range of depths with good weights at really good pricing. Just as an example we'll be building some on carbon-ti hubs with CxRays that will be around $1350 per set with weights ranging from 1180 grams for a clincher set capable of daily rider use. We've been extremely happy with the ones we've been testing so we're really looking forward to doing more with them.



When will those be out? They same amazing.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:04 pm 
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Madcow

Thanks for the info. I know riders who are very happy with your carbon-ti builds. Are there any possibility of tubeless soon. I'm holding out on those.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:08 pm 
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BigPoser wrote:

When will those be out? They same amazing.


We're pretty excited to get those going in full force. We've been slowly trickling out some sets over the last few months, but the first good sized batch of rims should arrive in the next 2 weeks.

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Madcow

Thanks for the info. I know riders who are very happy with your carbon-ti builds. Are there any possibility of tubeless soon. I'm holding out on those.
The carbon-ti hubs have been great. We've not tested the new rims tubeless but are told that they are tubeless compatible. We of course can also do them with Easton tubeless alloys which are in our opinion the nicest alloy rim available, or with Enve tubeless.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:20 pm 
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If you're taking requests, I'd be more interested in a budget model with Sapim Race and dt350 or ultegra level hubs. Obviously the cx-ray carbon-ti's will be awesome, but I've always been happy enough with a great rim on workhorse hubs.

A rim-only option would work for me too. Looking forward to seeing them either way!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm 
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Thanks Madcow. I'm running reynolds attack tubeless for one of my bike and would like to see how the rims mentioned handle tubeless and hard braking. If they are listed as tubeless compatible, that's a good start. I'm not an early adopter, and want something that people have tried. But you guys are well known, and your builds have been very positive.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:41 pm 
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Ehmm...isn't this topic about the BC wheelset? ;-)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:21 pm 
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Syntace hubs?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:48 pm 
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Daniel1975 wrote:
Ehmm...isn't this topic about the BC wheelset? ;-)


I know right? Now I am interested in knowing when Fairwheel will release their 1180g clinchers! lol


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:57 am 
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madcow wrote:
Just based on the fact that they are made in Germany and look almost identical to the Schmolke rims as well as have the same 45mm depth, I'd guess these are coming from the same machine.

There are a few companies that are now doing variations of filiment winding for rims. I can think of 3 companies making them for at least 5 "manufacturers" who are branding them as their own. We've been working with one that does a wide range of depths with good weights at really good pricing. Just as an example we'll be building some on carbon-ti hubs with CxRays that will be around $1350 per set with weights ranging from 1180 grams for a clincher set capable of daily rider use. We've been extremely happy with the ones we've been testing so we're really looking forward to doing more with them.

I think you've successfully got us all really intrigued. Is there a tubular version?


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Sounds like braiding robots are chiming in the end of asian carbon rim manufacture.


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