Tubulars choice for early spring

[stormur]

I'm new to tubulars, so Q is : Vittoria Corsa Elite or Vittoria Pave CG (both25mm) for early Spring ? Regardless performance ( I'm way behind any ) which will work better in A. low temperatures B. with small rocks all over the road ( Finnish way to make ice less slippery ) C. wet roads.

Or just give up tubulars and use clinchers till road conditions get better ?

[PinaRene]

I would go for the Vittoria Pave 25mm or even 27mm if they fit your frame. Other choice would be Challenge Paris - Roubaix in 27mm or Challenge Strada 25mm. I've used the Vittoria Pave 27mm during the spring training last year from March until June and no problem at all.

[eurperg]

Veloflex Roubaix and a little bottle of Stan's in your jersey pocket in case of puncture. (Yet to happen after four or five seasons on Veloflex tubulars)

No pro team rides Vittoria Paves anymore in spring classics, it's all Veloflex and FMB.

[LouisN]

Corsa Elite is cheaper to replace. Harder casing, rubber inner tube, so theorically less "stretchy".
Pavé has a tougher rolling band, more aggressive threads but same 320 TPI supple cotton casing. Latex tube.

I'd go Pavé.

Louis

[stormur]

Veloflex Roubaix and a little bottle of Stan's in your jersey pocket in case of puncture. (Yet to happen after four or five seasons on Veloflex tubulars)

No pro team rides Vittoria Paves anymore in spring classics, it's all Veloflex and FMB.

Suomalainen mies

Case is I already have two sets mentioned above... so choice is between them, and question which one survive seppeli easier ?


Another question, is Roubaix tan walled Arenberg ? Veloflex site describe both identically, weight is same... ?

[eurperg]

I guess the choice is Pavé then...

[stormur]

or Fillaritori is my friend, to sell f.e. Corsa Elite and buy Arenberg

[eurperg]

Roubaix and Arenberg are identical, except for the color.

[stormur]

Thanks! I thought so.

[tomycs]

which will work better in A. low temperatures B. with small rocks all over the road ( Finnish way to make ice less slippery ) C. wet roads.

Or just give up tubulars and use clinchers till road conditions get better ?

I was asking myself the same question earlier today(tubs or clinchers for wet, dirty UK roads). I now have those Conti Sprinter Gatorskin 25mm + sealant for winter riding and still went for clinchers My experience with the 25 mm Pave has been that while I liked the comfort, 2300km front and 1600km rear was just too little & I could get more or at least same from Corsas/Veloflex Carbons and feel faster

[Geoff]

I'm pretty sure that our road conditions are similar to yours. 25mm Paves will be perfect.

[bm0p700f]

Pave's and accept the short wear life of the tyre. Almost nothing grips better.

[sawyer]

Have spent quite a bit of time on both this Spring

Corsa Elite have three advantages ... they hold air better, they are cheaper, and they come in 21 and 23 if that is your thing.

Other than that the Paves are better.

Doubt there is much in it rolling resistance wise tbh ... Paves are latex tubed and 320tpti, but seem to have a thicker casing

[stormur]

@ tomycs : Conti is one of things which won't happened to me again - it caused so far to much troubles for me.

Short lifespan isn't big issue, grip & puncture resistance are my priorities for Spring- so Pave already sits on rims .

[wheelsONfire]

Softer rubber should have a better grip, harder less so.
Harder ought to be more durable.
My Veloflex Carbon seems to not only like to hold/ collect crushed stones/ gravel (they use this here at winter to prevent cars slipping off road),
the also are cut up a bit more than i like.
I wonder if the North European brands of tires are more durable while the Italian are more for ride feel!?

Maxxis Re-fuse seems very durable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3as6Mo-KU