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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:45 am 
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Yeah, I'm not happy with the Chosen hubs that came on my HongFu 56x27mm tubular wheels. Specifically the freehub body, which either isn't seating the cartridge bearings properly or is poorly sealed—or both. Gone through two sets of bearings after single-day races in the rain. I've just ordered two sets (one for me, one for a buddy) of the carbon-cycle 56x27mm tubulars. Supposedly the same rims as HongFu, but I requested they be built to Novatec hubs and CX-Ray spokes (and for slightly less money, all-in, too).

One other point, re: hubs: I believe the Chosen axle end caps are aluminum, while the Novatec appear to have a stainless cap, I believe. After some wheel changes I noticed the knurling on the aluminum axle caps on the Chosen rear hub was wearing from sliding in/out of the dropouts.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:04 pm 
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Thuekr wrote:
Thanks - now ordered a pair of WU6C 24/28h. 3 weeks production time with the custom drilling.

Cool! Let us know how they are when you get them!

I wish someone would take those Chinese rims and put them in the wind tunnel against the zipps,November,flo, etc.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 1:48 pm 
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Nicos wrote:
Thuekr wrote:
Thanks - now ordered a pair of WU6C 24/28h. 3 weeks production time with the custom drilling.

Cool! Let us know how they are when you get them!

I wish someone would take those Chinese rims and put them in the wind tunnel against the zipps,November,flo, etc.

The WU6C have a different shape than ie. the FLO60 so they will perform different - but not something I expect to notice on my level of cycling. The dealbreaker was
- internal rim width wide
- super-toroidal shape
- price point acceptable


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:06 pm 
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I pulled the trigger and ordered the two sets (one for a buddy) of 56mm (27mm wide) tubulars laced to novatec hubs with cx-ray spokes. rae gave me a pretty good deal. $400US per set and got him to throw in a few extra spokes.
I'll post pics when they arrive.

In the meanwhile, not to hijack this thread, but what tubulars are you guys running on these wide wheels ? I'm coming from the conti competitions 22mm. not seeing as many options in 25mm. any suggestions would be great !


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:48 pm 
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Looking to get a set of Carbon Tubular wheels from either Carbon-cycle or Farsports.
Looking at a 50 mm from farsports or a 56mm from carbon-cycle.

http://www.wheelsfar.com/road-wheels/tu ... t-212.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapim-CX-Carbon ... 6fd776c75f

Which one should I go for, the price difference with the same hubs is about $100 cheaper with the carbon-cycle.
Thanks

In response to Toronto-rider (above), seems saving $100 is the easy answer. My experience is carbon-cycle has good quality. Similar design, basalt brake track, sapim spokes. However, given all the recent discussion re: chosen hubs, why not just e-mail Rae at carbon-cycle (carboncycles@163.com) and ask for a custom build using novatec (sl or regular), you may end up saving more. I did that and was able to get a really good deal on my 40mm set - fast build and shipping - and didn't even get stuck with duty/tax to BC (even more savings!). Consider asking for extra spokes and buying extra brake pads.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:35 am 
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Also - the carbon-cycle rims have the wider, newer (?/better) shape I think (almost identical to Vision metron and similar to Bontrager Aeolus) compared to the farsports you had in your link. When I researched it, the carbon-cycle rims weren't the lightest I found (at least they are accurate), but the width adds weight (compared to older, narrower models) and I figured an extra 30-40 grams either meant they were honest in their measurements and/or would add durability. I have pics of my 40mm deep clincher wheels if you're interested (they should be decent resolution) - you can e-mail me at trillot@hotmail.com.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:03 am 
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Just a quick video of the Chinese carbon wheelset from Carbon Speed Cycle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKjamwoa8S8

23mm Width
50mm Rim Depth
Powerway straight pull carbon shell hubs

100 mile update, with more updates to follow with mileage.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:16 pm 
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stephenjwhan wrote:
...rae gave me a pretty good deal. $400US per set...


I am experiencing jealousy on a large scale right now. $400 per wheelset is a stupid good price. Damn.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:19 am 
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I'm looking for a light weight low profile tubular wheel. I'm looking at farsports 23mm wide 20mm high wheel and their 20.5mm wide 24mm high wheel. My question is how much does width affect aerodynamics on such a low profile wheel? I weigh about 75kg and I feel that 20mm high seems quite shallow and might be less stiff?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:35 pm 
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I think the 23-20 will be stiffer laterally and the 20.5-24 stiffer radially.
And I'm not sure what will be the most aerodynamic, since the 23mm wide is less deep, but it should match the tire width beter (which is more aerodynamic)
In conclusion I don't know what's best :p


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:42 am 
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Two wheelsets were delivered to my place this morning (no duties or taxes!). so $400US per wheelset plus $120 shipping for both sets and they arrived within a week of payment.

Gave them a quick inspection and minus a couple little marks, they seem pretty good. I'll fully inspect and post pictures hopefully tomorrow.

However, has anyone here ordered Novatec A291SL/F482SL hubs? Both wheelsets have unbranded black hubs. Was wondering if these are the right hubs or if they should be branded ? Anyway to check ?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:27 am 
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stephenjwhan wrote:
Two wheelsets were delivered to my place this morning (no duties or taxes!). so $400US per wheelset plus $120 shipping for both sets and they arrived within a week of payment.

Gave them a quick inspection and minus a couple little marks, they seem pretty good. I'll fully inspect and post pictures hopefully tomorrow.

However, has anyone here ordered Novatec A291SL/F482SL hubs? Both wheelsets have unbranded black hubs. Was wondering if these are the right hubs or if they should be branded ? Anyway to check ?

Mine are all black too. No branding. Google the hubs and you can see they are the Novatecs.

Nice deal and crazy fast shipping. I doubt you will be disappointed. I know I'm not.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:39 pm 
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Got an email from Rae assuring me they are the correct Novatec A291Sl/F482SL hubs. Also did some comparisons and they definitely are the Novatecs. Thanks @aktexican !

Waiting for my tires to arrive. Will post photos soon.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:20 pm 
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Does anybody have any experience of the carbon alloy clincher from farsports? Want a set of light shallow wheels and given I'm happy with both sets of 38mm I have from them, thought I might give them a try.

Had contemplated the 24mm carbon clincher too but not sure I would be confident on heat dissipation on the hills.

Other option is Soul 2.0 but like the fact farsports use CX rays. Any opinions on these would be good too.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:30 pm 
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I'm in the same boat as Beancounter. Would love to know if anyone has any experience with any of the alloy-carbon clinchers. Don't want to monkey with brakes/etc--and I sit infinitely more on the aero weenie side than the weight weenie (but this site just has a lot of gear nerds, so it works. :D)

I'm more interested in the "bigger" ones (60-90mm depth, 23-25mm wide at the brakes), as I'm hoping to build one up with a powertap. My TT rig is a specialized transition, and the stupid chainstays rub on a disc cover. It'd be nice to have a deeper wheel in order to improve clearance. And, well, to have a fun all-around wheelset.


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