HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:18 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 am
Posts: 129
Just got some Neutron Ultras thought they'd be a good upgrade for my Canyon Ult Al allround hack and drop a few grams as well,
Campy says they're 80 grams lighter 1470 Vs 1550 (both campy freehubs),
Zonda 1568g
Neutron Ultra 1596g!!!
The Neutron rear is 34g heavier than Zonda's has a lower profile rim and carbon shell + they use rim strips so that'll be a 60-70g gain overall.
The Zondas (current model less than year old) are 6g's lighter than when weighed new, rim wear or removal of stickers?

Neutron rear
Image

Neutron Front
Image

Zonda rear
Image

Zonda front
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:18 am 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:08 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat May 09, 2009 1:52 pm
Posts: 385
Location: England, UK
Having owned both I'd take the Zonda any day in retrospect. I'm not even sure the Neutron has a meaningful place anymore. I didn't think the ride quality of Neutron Ultras was all that, compared to some other handbuilts. Then again I like the Shamal.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:32 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 372
I had a similar experienced with Neutrons recently, they do weigh much more that Campag state. My set weighed in at 1573 and the rim tapes are actually only 41g (if memory serves) leaving the wheels around 1532 which is considerably heavier than billed. In their defence they do roll really really well and are extremely robust, evidenced by my trip to the Tour of Flanders sportive last month!

_________________
Colnago M10 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=91208&hilit=colnago+m10+maob
Simplon Pavo III viewtopic.php?f=10&t=116069"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:32 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 am
Posts: 129
I don't care much for the G3 spoke layout since I had a NDS spoke break this winter a long way from home and getting dark
It was almost unrideable, run out so far tyre was rubbing the seat and chain stays.
Just disapointed with Campy's claimed weights, had to re-weigh my Zondas because I thought my scales were wrong, +126 grams is taking the piss.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:27 pm
Posts: 11
What are actual weights for shamal ultra? I have been looking at neutron vs shamal vs ksyrium SLR for a set of strong alpine wheels. Not sure i can justify the price difference for the ksyrium exalith aesthetic.

The neutron weights make me wonder why you would go with them vs shamal.

Another query is two way fit? Worth the price difference?

_________________
Mercian Super Vigorelli - Dura Ace 7600 Track
Cervelo S2 - Super Record (Retired)
Parlee Z5 Sli - Super Record


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 am
Posts: 129
Causidicus wrote:
Tenlegs wrote:
+126 grams is taking the piss.

..and with a Shimano freehub it's hardly extraordinary.

I quite clearly stated that it's a Campy freehub in the first post


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 am
Posts: 129
Then please explain what you see in the photos and explain why Zonda's are lighter if as you say Campags weights are accurate
Zonda Fr 694g R 874g = 1568 claimed 1550
Neutron Fr 688g R 908g = 1596 claimed 1470


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 372
Causidicus wrote:
You have a scales problem. Campagnolo claimed weights are accurate.


Personally speaking I don't have a "scales" problem. I work in a scientific lab where our electronic balances are calibrated monthly...

_________________
Colnago M10 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=91208&hilit=colnago+m10+maob
Simplon Pavo III viewtopic.php?f=10&t=116069"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 am
Posts: 129
Causidicus wrote:
No need to explain. You are the problem.

Causidicus what is your problem, why are you being such a dick?
I've shown the weights in photos, the supposedly heavier Zonda's are clearly lighter than the Neutron's whatever the accuracy of my scales are.
I stripped the Zonda's down so I could weigh them again side by side as I couldn't believe the weight of the Neutron's either, I thought my scales
were out as well, so please if you've nothing constructive to say, go away.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:45 pm
Posts: 3348
Location: Natovi Landing
I've had two sets of Zondas and IIRC they were both very close to claimed ... think the new Mega set are 1540g.

Neutrons are consistently well overweight. I haven't owned a set though some people say they are a fair bit stiffer? They need to have something going for them given they are heavier than Zondas, less aero, and cost twice as much FFS. Carbon hub???

Shamal Gen 1 were 1420g ... so lighter, but harsher


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:36 pm 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:54 pm
Posts: 207
If scales are not calibrated, they are not calibrated for both wheels. So results will be the same.

I also don't understand why people started to act like this, when they see this kind of topics... Campagnolo pays them for good message about their product or they paid much for it and now feel sh*t because it is worse than they think...

_________________
Stava
Instagram


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: FIJIGabe and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Campagnolo Zonda cracked rim

in Road

marcio riva

12

1705

Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:26 am

kavitator View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Replacement Campagnolo Neutron rim?

[ Go to page: 1, 2 ]

in Road

wilwil

15

780

Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:16 pm

wilwil View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Campagnolo Neutron Ultras, 31.6mm Merckx Seatpost - Reduced

in For sale - Pictures are mandatory 22-3-13

Flint

0

273

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:47 pm

Flint View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Campagnolo Ultra-Fit

in Road

speedyvelo

1

284

Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:59 pm

5 8 5 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Campagnolo SR Ultra Torque installation question

in Road

isharamet

12

1181

Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:24 pm

bontie View the latest post


It is currently Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:38 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB