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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:29 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:14 pm 
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bman11 wrote:
I am pondering the purchase of a new set of Enve 6.7 clinchers. Being that I already have a set of 3.4's, that I LOVE, will I notice a huge difference with the 6.7's? I already know the drawbacks and proposed gains of a deeper wheel. I am merely looking for some real world experience/advice here. I ran a search and came up empty...
About me: I am an all a rounder that doesn't race any longer, but still puts in a ton of miles. I am 6ft/170 lbs and I ride a Colnago CX-1.
Thanks in advance everyone,
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I think more than anything it would depend on how well you can handle the bike. You'll get a blown around a little more on the 6.7's, but it's not bad. They are louder, FWIW.


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 Post subject: ENVE 3.4 & 6.7
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:27 pm 
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A visualization for anyone debating between the two. I say save the Lightweight money and buy both of these instead.

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 Post subject: Re: ENVE 3.4 & 6.7
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:46 am 
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I like 3.4 personally because my frame is white… but the 6.7 look more badarse on your black bike then they did on my white one.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:04 pm 
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I'm constantly going through the same debate myself. I live in rolling country. The hills are usually short(isn), but often very steep. It is often very windy here, especially in the spring.

I'm a larger rider (6' 1.5", 180lbs ready to ride) and have had many different deeper wheels over the years. Older, first gen dimpled 404s were sometimes a handful, currently have some DV46 from a couple years ago have are really bad in gusty winds.

On the flip side, I've borrowed Firecrest 404 wheels and had zero issues, even in really gusty strong winds. I've never been on a set of SES wheels though. (but own some Enve MTB wheels and they are top notch, quality wise)

I would be getting clinchers.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:35 am 
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@carbonLORD - You curious to try the 8.9's on your Venge

@Briscoelab - Consider trying this combo of a 6.7 front (60mm) and 8.9 rear (95mm)

IMO - I've found the SES better in heavy/gusty winds (less torque on front wheel) vs. Zipp equivalent i.e. FC 404 vs. SES 6.7 which is why I ended up skipping the 6.7's and going straight to the 8.9's tubs
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:00 pm 
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Good shot! I don't think I could pull off the 8.9, but it seems the 6.7 would be brilliant.

Still, in the spring and even summer, it isn't uncommon for us to have 30-45 kph winds, with gusts onto of that. But, I've ridden 404's with out much issue. The pre firecrest models could before a handful at times, but even those were better than my Reynolds DV46. In an ideal world, I'd have both :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:36 pm 
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dmoneysworks wrote:
@Briscoelab - Consider trying this combo of a 6.7 front (60mm) and 8.9 rear (95mm)


I think this is a great idea. Admittedly the 20h rear on the 8.9s makes me somewhat skeptical however that rim is so ridiculously stiff that it's a non issue.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:32 am 
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Unless you're doing TT's they will be too deep and spin up too slow.

I had 808's on my C59 for 2 weeks before dumping them for 404's which turned my bike from blah to brilliant!

My team actually yelled at me when I had the 808's. "Whats wrong with you!?!? When you are taking your pulls we're going 2-3mph slower! Are you feeling OK!?!?" A week later, on 404's I hurt everyone. Cant say the same for the 3.4, to 6.7 comparo because they both perform excellent!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:50 am 
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Really, this debate again?

carbonLORD wrote:
Unless you're doing TT's they will be too deep and spin up too slow.


http://www.theroaddiaries.com/2013/01/2 ... -sram-red/


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:52 am 
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MarkTwain wrote:
Really, this debate again?

carbonLORD wrote:
Unless you're doing TT's they will be too deep and spin up too slow.


http://www.theroaddiaries.com/2013/01/2 ... -sram-red/


LOL@ comparing yourself to Mark Cavendish.

He's also riding a frame that's too small for him this season as well.

Please don't emulate the pros and think that makes one an authority.

The man can carry speeds you and I are incapable of and matches a TT on our best efforts.

I spoke of my real world experience and certainly own the gear to give a fair enough comparison.

But, If you believe owning double discs are going to make you Cavendish you should be his lead out man.

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