American Classic Carbon 58 and 85 tubular?

[ultyguy]

Hi all,

I've been looking around on the intraweb at these puppies and outside of their rim height, I can't get any beta on the width or overall shape? Are they previous generation Zipp molds? Are they wide or just old school V?

Thanks!

[davidalone]

from what i know, AC sourced rims from zipp for their wheels.

the 58 ARE the previous gen zipp wheels, just without dimples. don't know about the 85 though.