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£600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:01 pm
by mattjevans
Ambrosio F20 28 hole
American Classic Micro 58/205 hubs
DT Revolution spokes
Vittoria Crono EVO CS tubulars
Carbon-Ti X-lock Speciale skewer

I think that builds up to c.1630g including tyres and skewers. It is possible to do lighter less than £600? (Actually I think this lot might end up closer to £650).

£600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:01 pm
by Weenie

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:14 pm
by istigatrice
Some food for thought:

Planet X tubular rims @ 250g?
Titanium spokes?

these options will cost more than the ones you've mentioned though... Although the PX rims should be stiffer than the F20s, so you could be able to get away with a few less spokes. I haven't done the calculations, but I have a feeling that BHS hubs and PX rims with Ti spokes will also work out to around 600 pounds and be lighter/similar weight

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:35 pm
by mattjevans
Thanks - very interesting. Wasn't aware of BHS but that's a value alternative to AM Classic.

PX rims only available in 20 hole for now. Might be too little for the rear? Though I would go with CX-Rays rather than Ti. In 20 spoke that would appear to build up to around 1000g (exlc tyres and skewers) vs 1250 for the Ambrosio.

Must do a search on those PX rims and see if people are happy with them.

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:48 pm
by mattjevans
Well a quick google search suggests people seem generally happy with the PX rim / BHS hub combo

I weigh 74kg and am not a sprinter - could I safely build up 20 hole PX rims with DT Revolution spokes?

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:36 pm
by HillRPete
20 rear might be pushing it. 74kg is not flyweight (by cycling standards, i have the same). Personally I'd probably go 28 rear for a shallow tub, but then again I don't like the concept of raceday-only gear. A few spokes don't weigh shit, and make such a difference.

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:54 pm
by mattjevans
No I am certainly not flyweight. I am a typically just-ever-so-slightly-too-pudgy 40 something pencil pusher.

Not sure if PX are getting the 24 hole back in, so I think it's back to the Ambrosio F20 plan. BHS hubs are possibly a bit of a find though in terms of making a light but value wheelset.

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:43 pm
by mattjevans
On another note, has anyone used these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-light-4 ... 3f0f2e8420

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:03 pm
by prendrefeu
Plenty of people use those skewers. They are available from many sellers and resources.

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:47 pm
by yz387
I build up a set of the PX 20mm rims on BHS hubs about a year ago. I had CX in mind, so mine are 24 hole both front and rear. I have been happy with them. I did manage to crack one of the rims in a CX race last fall, but to be fair, i hit a big, square edge hole very hard. When I did it, I thought I was going to crack both rims, but only the rear was damaged. The only downside to the build is that with the shallow rim and the narrow drive side flange of the rear hub, it is tough to get a good tension ratio between the DS and NDS spokes. This can be delt with by choosing the correct lacing patterns though.

Overall, it is a nice wheelset for the money, and at 1050 grams, they are a ton of fun to ride!

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:54 pm
by mattjevans
Anyone happen to have a spare PX 24 hole rim then...?

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:53 pm
by WMW
mattjevans wrote:so I think it's back to the Ambrosio F20 plan.


I have some Velocity Escapes in 24, 28 laying about if you are interested.

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:00 am
by mattjevans
thanks but am in the UK, not worth the shipping costs on something like that

Re: £600 - anything I can get that is lighter than this...

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:00 am
by Weenie