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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:11 pm 
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Evening all,

As per the title, I´m in the market for a handbuilt set of reasonably light do-it-all wheels.

Priorities:

approx 1500g
the new ´wider´ style of rim (HED Belgium Plus or similar), 25mm sounds about right
at least 32 hole rear, 28 hole front.
extremely strong



Not priorites:

low budget
aero rim shape
aero spokes

Any recommendations?

Thanks all in advance!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:58 pm 
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it's not gonna happened…

HED C2 23mm plus DT240 28-24 gives you about 1350g , then spokes : CX ray / AeroL 115-120g , 2.0-1.8-2.0 add another 50-60g, same for brass nipples.

I'm using "heavy" set for cyclocross : HED C2 23mm, dt350 SP front 24 rear 28 , dt comp straight pull, sapim polyax 14mm brass . 1690g.

Nothing ( really nothing ! ) can hurt this set. Never need any truing, still holds 0.2/ 0.1mm since build. Ridden in "set" weight 110kg on road, singletrack, forest paths ( rocky here ) … still doing more than fine.

You could shave weight going for 240s straight pull ( from definition stronger design than j-bend spokes ) , Aerospoke for DS , Aerolite nDS &front , brass nipples - you'll be around 1550 g. And really superstrong 1550g. Using Effetto Mariposa tubeless tape instead of red hed rim tape you save next 30g or so ( no need to go tubeless, EM tape works perfect even with latex 55g Challenge tubes ) .

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:32 pm 
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The only way to do it is with a rim like the Ryde pulse sprint. 32f and 36r with record hubs and laser spokes is under 1500g just. That is actually quite a stiff wheelset so it will be quite robust. I recon there is a weight limit of around 9kg in the rims but that's to ensure they won't crack over time. I prefer building with them for folks under that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:01 am 
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My Pacentis are 1450 in 24/28. They would pretty much fit the requirements - 24mm wide, running cxrays on BHS hubs. An extra 8 spokes and you'll still be under 1500g. You could lace up 2x / 3x for something a bit more robust in the case of spoke breakage if you like though mine are rad / 2x. I'm 90kg or thereabouts FWIW and i have maybe 1000km in them so far and they've been good.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:28 am 
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Here's my effort:

2x410g: Light bicycle 35mm x 25mm U shaped carbon clincher.
295g: BHS SLF85W and SL210.
60x4.36g: Sapim Laser
60x0.31g: aluminum nipples

~1400 grams, ~$530.

Substitute CN MAC 424 for $1.50 more/spoke.

But you only really need 20/24 with this rim. It is super stiff.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:55 am 
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Cheap, light, durable => pick two, you can't get all three.

If I were you, I would sacrifice light to a cerain degree. If you want a wheelset with 32/28, it must be because you're en the heavy side. And then it doesn't really make sense to aim for a light wheelset.

I would much rather aim for an aero, durable wheelset. Pacenti SL23 in a 28/24 or 32/28 config.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:01 am 
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Why 32? How much do you weigh?

If this is for loaded touring, you don't really want a 1500g wheelset...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:13 am 
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I built a set of 1578g
C2 plus rims, WI hubs, X-ray spokes
Lighter hubs it could be done.
I did use Dt Swiss proloc hex nipples that are alloy but..
It's a mean set of wheels

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:20 am 
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It would really help if people asking about wheel builds would mention their weight and intended use (racing, touring, etc.) in their initial post. No way to know what you are looking for or whether any suggestion is appropriate without that info.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:51 am 
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Many thanks all for the advice. Apologies for not including enough information on my initial post.

I weigh 210 but the wheelset will be 'shared' with my wife, who weighs 115lbs.

On my commuter/tourer I run a handbuilt rear which has proved utterly bombproof over the last 10k miles so am looking at a really nice handbuilt set for our racing bikes here.

Group rides / sportives for me, sprint triathlon for her.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:54 am 
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Slagter wrote:
Cheap, light, durable => pick two, you can't get all three.

If I were you, I would sacrifice light to a cerain degree. If you want a wheelset with 32/28, it must be because you're en the heavy side. And then it doesn't really make sense to aim for a light wheelset.

I would much rather aim for an aero, durable wheelset. Pacenti SL23 in a 28/24 or 32/28 config.


I'm not looking for 'cheap', I think I mentioned that in the OP.

I'll look at the Pacentis, thanks! A name I hadn't heard of. 'The learning curve is steep for this one'


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:12 am 
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I'm gona put this out there and say it's totally doable.
The wheels I built were for the editor of Cyleexif.com and he took them to Tasmania for Christmas and huntee down rough gravel roads to put them through their paces.. They're still straight as an arrow and he's 85+kgs

If you used a tune mig and a Dt 240 rear I reckon you'd be pretty darn close
Also some might say the mig is too light but when way the last time you heard of one blowing up? The mags for sure but the migs.. Not so much

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