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nspace
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by nspace on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:54 pm
Thanks to all who posted photos of the brake surface!
verycreativeusername wrote:Now that they are 470g, there is really no reason to buy these over the Kinlin XC-279 (BHS c472w) is there (apart from the finish)?
I kind of thought the same. Same thing with the Alpha 340. Now that they are up to 380g, why spend $100 per rim when you could get a Kinlin XR200 for less than half the cost for a 5g weight increase. I guess if the quality is truly better than there is an argument there.
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istigatrice
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by istigatrice on Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:17 am
nspace wrote:I kind of thought the same. Same thing with the Alpha 340. Now that they are up to 380g, why spend $100 per rim when you could get a Kinlin XR200 for less than half the cost for a 5g weight increase.
you supposedly get a better tyre profile with the Stans rim, how much thats worth to you IDK
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Roundabout
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by Roundabout on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:14 pm
Two 60-65kg teammates of mine trashed Alpha rims well before the end of their first season. I would not build up a set with em.
I thought about archetypes but went with the new musa A23's. Built up quite solidly to WI and have very nice road feel and build quality seems higher than past velocity efforts. I've been out of the country since August but looks like the price on A23 has gone up with the release of all the colors. Seeing as my warranty frame is black and my wheels are silver, I may build up a set of Archetypes for matchy-matchy / comparison's sake.
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by Zen Cyclery on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:15 pm
nspace wrote:Thanks to all who posted photos of the brake surface!
verycreativeusername wrote:Now that they are 470g, there is really no reason to buy these over the Kinlin XC-279 (BHS c472w) is there (apart from the finish)?
I kind of thought the same. Same thing with the Alpha 340. Now that they are up to 380g, why spend $100 per rim when you could get a Kinlin XR200 for less than half the cost for a 5g weight increase. I guess if the quality is truly better than there is an argument there.
I think that the rim bed on the 340 is slightly nicer than the 200, but both are decent rims.
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WMW
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by WMW on Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:46 am
nspace wrote:Same thing with the Alpha 340. Now that they are up to 380g, why spend $100 per rim when you could get a Kinlin XR200 for less than half the cost for a 5g weight increase. I guess if the quality is truly better than there is an argument there.
The 340 is definitely stiffer, the tire profile on them is wider and rounder than any clincher rim I know of (and that includes 23mm wide rims), they are offset drilled, and welded. Considering how much material they added to the rim bed, I think they will be durable... in that location at least.
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by sbh1973 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:44 pm
I'm wondering what others are getting for an ERD on the Archetype. I'm coming out with 595-596 on the latest batch, which is quite a bit higher than the manufacturer's stated ERD.
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WMW
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by WMW on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:51 am
I got two recently that weigh 476g and the ERD is ~592.5mm.
I'm using Wheelsmith aluminum nipples, with the end of the spoke right at the beginning of the slot (not the end of the nipple).
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Hawkwood
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by Hawkwood on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:42 pm
I'm interested in getting some new wheels built up and had been considering the Archetype, however now the Kinlin XC-279 rim interests me, does anyone know who stocks this rim in the UK?
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by MajorMantra on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:09 pm
I've just built up two 20/24 sets and I used the manufacturer's stated ERD of 591 - foolish I know, but I was in a hurry to buy my spokes.
The spokes are definitely around 1-2mm shorter than ideal, but I think I'm ok as I'm using brass nipples.
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WMW
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by WMW on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:16 pm
bricky21 wrote:rruff, is the spoke at the slot in the nipple rather than the end to allow for spoke stretch when your building the wheel?
Yes. Spoke and rim distortion mainly.
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