PaulSD wrote:I've heard Speciazlied makes their frame and wheels in that city.
In the city doesnt mean in the same manufacture
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Red7 wrote:I'm about to order some Farsport wheels for my Trek Domane disc bike and read thru this entire thread but still have some questions.
1. What is the benefit of 38mm vs 30mm deep wheels? I realize 38 are a little more aerodynamic but isn't that lost if I'll be using 28c or possibly 32c tires on 25mm wide rims?
2. 30mm weigh 1525 grams vs 1625 for the 38mm (both with DT350 hubs) so what is the benefit of the 38mm that would make it worth the 100 gram penalty?
3. Are the DT350 hubs worth the $80ish increase in price over the Novatec hubs?
4. I weigh 193 lbs (88kg) and it appears like all of the disc wheelsets come with 28 spokes.
5. Is it worth the Sapim CX-Ray spokes vs round Sapim race spokes?
6. What is straight pull vs j bend?
7. I don't plan to go tubless at this time but is there any negative to ordering the rims without spoke holes? How do you change out spokes?
Sorry about all the questions but I'm new at all of this. Thanks so much for your help!
NovemberDave wrote:Not to be a d--che about it, but shouldn't the people you're buying from be able to offer you some guidance? Helping people just like you make decisions just like you're considering is how I spend about 25% of my time. Anyone selling a technical product should be well versed in their offerings enough to help their customers. From "because they're more rad" to just plain no credible attempt at an answer, I struggle to believe what people accept for seller service.
bilwit wrote:I don't think so, potential customers don't really have a case for being that entitled (unless they're moving a large amount of product which isn't the case for end-users), especially when everything asked are either completely subjective or can be researched by themselves with a simple Google search. It's nice to have a company offer to hold your hand but I would neither expect them to or feel inclined to. Asking the community's opinions (who have less bias and actual real world experience) is a much more reasonable and reliable way.
Red7 wrote:I'm about to order some Farsport wheels for my Trek Domane disc bike and read thru this entire thread but still have some questions.
1. What is the benefit of 38mm vs 30mm deep wheels? I realize 38 are a little more aerodynamic but isn't that lost if I'll be using 28c or possibly 32c tires on 25mm wide rims?
2. 30mm weigh 1525 grams vs 1625 for the 38mm (both with DT350 hubs) so what is the benefit of the 38mm that would make it worth the 100 gram penalty?
3. Are the DT350 hubs worth the $80ish increase in price over the Novatec hubs?
4. I weigh 193 lbs (88kg) and it appears like all of the disc wheelsets come with 28 spokes.
5. Is it worth the Sapim CX-Ray spokes vs round Sapim race spokes?
6. What is straight pull vs j bend?
7. I don't plan to go tubless at this time but is there any negative to ordering the rims without spoke holes? How do you change out spokes?
Sorry about all the questions but I'm new at all of this. Thanks so much for your help!
Multebear wrote:Red7 wrote:I'm about to order some Farsport wheels for my Trek Domane disc bike and read thru this entire thread but still have some questions.
1. What is the benefit of 38mm vs 30mm deep wheels? I realize 38 are a little more aerodynamic but isn't that lost if I'll be using 28c or possibly 32c tires on 25mm wide rims?
2. 30mm weigh 1525 grams vs 1625 for the 38mm (both with DT350 hubs) so what is the benefit of the 38mm that would make it worth the 100 gram penalty?
3. Are the DT350 hubs worth the $80ish increase in price over the Novatec hubs?
4. I weigh 193 lbs (88kg) and it appears like all of the disc wheelsets come with 28 spokes.
5. Is it worth the Sapim CX-Ray spokes vs round Sapim race spokes?
6. What is straight pull vs j bend?
7. I don't plan to go tubless at this time but is there any negative to ordering the rims without spoke holes? How do you change out spokes?
Sorry about all the questions but I'm new at all of this. Thanks so much for your help!
Since no one else has tried, I'll give it a go:
1: 38 is a bit more aero than 30. Not much though. And yes, if you choose 32 mm tires on 25 mm rims, they'll cancel out some of the aeroness. But with your weight, why only 38? You could easily do 50 or 60 mm.
2: Unless you are doing hard accelerations over and over again while climbing, then aero trumps weight.
3: Yes and no. Novatec are good hubs. DT350 are a little better and more durable. I would always choose a top hub like DT over Novatec. But Novatec will still give you many trouble free km's.
4: 28h/28H is normal for disc wheels.
5: The cx rays will give you a slight aero benefit of a few watts. Only you can decide, if that's worth the extra $$.
6: It's the way spokes are attached to the hub. J bend is the shape of the spoke, at the attachment point on the hub. Straight pull is attached differently. J bends are easier to source. But Straight pull are a little stronger. I prefer J bend. And for 28h/28h and 88 kg you don't need that extra strength. Google it for pictures of J bend and SP.
7: Almost any rim can be converted to tubeless with stans rim tape. No need to go without spoke holes. And it's PITA to change spokes without spoke holes, but obviously it's doable. Search youtube for vids.
Multebear wrote:I´m pretty sure, you wont feel any difference in stiffness. I have two wheelsets from Farstports, they are 38 and 50 mm. I don't feel any difference, and I'm around the same weight as you. In very windy conditions, I feel a little bit when riding during crosswinds with the 50 mm ones.
I know this is weightweenies, but you need to stop focusing on wheelweight. It's not important unless you do steep climbs combined with accellereations. Aero is much more important. With your weight I'd say 50 mm is the shallowest you ougt to consider. You could easily get away with 50 and 60 mm. Even 80 mm if it's not too windy.