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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:05 pm 
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Hi All,

Opinions please.... 2016 Zipp 404 v Campagnolo Bora One 50

(newer Zipp versions)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:49 pm 
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I am assuming you are asking about the clincher versions of both the wheelsets. I have a 2014 Zipp 303 Firecrest Clincher and a 2015 Campagnolo Bora One 35 Clincher. Judging from how they ride, I will recommend the Bora wheels over Zipps any day. However, I understand that this recommendation is completely based on personal riding experience and no scientific data about aerodynamic drag from the two wheelsets (I have not seen any wind tunnel test data on the new wider bora rims).

One thing which is worth noting is that the Bora One 50 clincher is significantly lighter compared to the Zipp 404 Firecrest Clincher.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:43 pm 
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Sure. Just interesting to know as they are now in the same price range, for example SlaneCycles had a pretty decent price drop (not affiliated at all I buy from Germany) So if someone was deciding on the two, 58mm v 50mm, both wide rims...

I'm own the Bora 35mm clinchers too and they are faultless...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:55 am 
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I am trying to solve the same puzzle but the substantial weight difference and hub quality keeps driving me towards the bora one 50 clinchers. The bora one 50 clinchers from starbike is 300 bucks cheaper than the cheapest price I can get for the Zipp 404 firecrest clinchers. Would love to see some aerodynamic drag comparisons between the two.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:35 am 
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Go for the tub version!

Bora is a fair bit lighter and has better hubs

Zipp has a better rim shape

I would say Boras for all round riding, Zipps if they are going to be used for TTs

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:07 am 
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I think the ideal combination of wheelsets has to be

hyperon, bora 50

bora 35, ??

I feel 35mm and 50mm not much in them... hence why the zipps fall into the conversation a lot in our club for those with hyperon/35mm...

and the price drop in the zipps... pretty competitive now


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:53 pm 
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@Timujin, the Hyperons are heavier and less aero than the Bora 35s

Volume of Hyperons being sold these days must be miniscule. I expect they will either be heavily revised or discontinued before long

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I don't get why you have Zipp as the only option?

If i were you, i would seriously look at the tubular Easton EC90 Aero 55. They are lighter than Zipp and the hubs are really cool.

If you are into looks, the Aero 55 looks really really cool. I really like them. I also use Ax Stream 38.

Aero 55 is very stabile and i must say, comfortable. I got my set of Maxxis Champione (25mm) to late, so i run them with Veloflex Carbon (23mm).

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:23 am 
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wheelsONfire wrote:
I don't get why you have Zipp as the only option?

If i were you, i would seriously look at the tubular Easton EC90 Aero 55. They are lighter than Zipp and the hubs are really cool.


A buddy just got his Easton aero 55 after a long history of Zipp (he had everything from 303 to 808), said it's actually Zippier

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:13 am 
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sawyer wrote:
@Timujin, the Hyperons are heavier and less aero than the Bora 35s

Volume of Hyperons being sold these days must be miniscule. I expect they will either be heavily revised or discontinued before long


I think so too..... as they stopped the hyperon one and now only sell hyperon two's.... other than back stock which some shops have


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:15 am 
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Kayrehn wrote:
wheelsONfire wrote:
I don't get why you have Zipp as the only option?

If i were you, i would seriously look at the tubular Easton EC90 Aero 55. They are lighter than Zipp and the hubs are really cool.


A buddy just got his Easton aero 55 after a long history of Zipp (he had everything from 303 to 808), said it's actually Zippier


hahahah a zippier!!! lol


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:18 pm 
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Kayrehn wrote:
wheelsONfire wrote:
I don't get why you have Zipp as the only option?

If i were you, i would seriously look at the tubular Easton EC90 Aero 55. They are lighter than Zipp and the hubs are really cool.


A buddy just got his Easton aero 55 after a long history of Zipp (he had everything from 303 to 808), said it's actually Zippier


Did your buddy get the tubular or clincher version of the Aero55's? I'm having a tough time deciding between the Aero55's or the new EC90 38's and would like to get some real world feedback on them. If you could pm me or respond here with any feedback about how his Aero55's ride, brake, flex, etc... I'd appreciate it, thanks!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:41 am 
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Unless Aerodynamics is absolutely top priority, it is really hard to make an argument for the Zipp's if you're considering the Bora's.

The braking on the Boras will be much better. I've put a fair amount of miles on some Firecrests and the braking was terrible, in my opinion - this being compared to Reynolds and Enve carbon clinchers.

Furthermore, as others have pointed out, Zipp's will also likely have junk hubs - despite being "new and improved" each year.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:36 am 
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I hear so much hate over Zipp hubs yet I own 2 sets with the 88 hub and they have been perfect. I know a number of others with multiple Zipp sets and again no issues whatsoever. Abe they are fast!!


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Fair point. Personally, I've never had any issues with my Zipp hubs either. The front was finicky at times but nothing major.

Honestly I think it's just an odds game. There are so many more Zipp wheels out there now than many others, so failures all around are just more prevalent and spread faster. I do think that their yearly revisions to the hub does speak volumes though, there are clearly a fair number of issues with them to justify putting in the R&D to redesigning their whole lineup over and over.

Was probably inappropriate for me to say "junk hubs" overall, but certainly difficult to compare them to Campy hubs!

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