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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:47 pm 
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Gex64 wrote:
Who makes a rim with the size profile of the 202 Firecrest clincher?


Light-Bicycle has stated they plan to do a 35mm clincher so that will probably be the closest thing to the 202 FC


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:33 pm 
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Unsure if weights have been posted for the Deng-Fu 56mm tubulars built with Novatec 482/291 and Mac 424, but mine came in at 1330g for the set.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:52 pm 
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Here's the rundown on what there is for wider, U shaped, firecrest style tubular rims to my knowledge:

Hongfu or UAM 40MM/56MM/88MM http://www.uamcycling.com/ens/?topclass ... lassid=299
Forthcoming L-B 45mm http://www.light-bicycle.com/700C-carbo ... l_add_cart


For those of you who have ordered either the Hongfu/UAM 56mm or LB 45mm wheels, what sort of prices have you been quoted?

Hongfu is quoting me a price of $625 + $85 (shipping to US) for the 56mm aero wheels (with the standard 20H/24H spoke count).
LB is quoting me a price of $560 + $78 (shipping to US) for their 45mm U-Shaped wheels customized to 24H/28H rather than the standard 20H/24H.

Has anyone that has purchased these wheels been quoted a better price?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:33 pm 
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Hongfu wrote:
thanks for your messag,
about this full carbon Areo rims, HF-R56,
the best price is 340usd/pair, tubular,
and clincher is 410usd/pair.
the shipping cost is 75usd to USA.
there we accept paypal.
so you only need one pair ?
wait your reply.
thank you!
best regards.
coby


I was asking about rims only though. but I'd like to add this info to the discussion.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:44 am 
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Paid $309 for HongFu 56T 20-24 UD finish
Ship to US $70
PP fees, $17

$396 total.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:11 am 
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Got the front done. 978gm total for under 550usd.

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They match up very nicely with 22mm tubulars. Smooth transition between tire and rim without the lightbulb effect.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:41 am 
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I contacted Vivian at HongFu this afternoon regarding their UAM-brand 56mm x 27mm carbon tubular wheelset (http://www.uamcycling.com/ens/?topclass ... 299&id=162). She replied promptly within a few hours (morning in her location in China, I assume). She says the wheels are in stock (sans decals) and that I can choose either Powerway or Chosen hubs with CN spokes. After a request for photos to confirm the u-shape version she followed up with a standard photo of the wheelset (taken from their online catalogue I assume), as well as a basic profile diagram of their various rim depths available.

About $500US (±$30 depending on hub), plus $85 shipping to Canada, plus 4.5% PayPal fee. She also requires a 30% deposit.

Of note: "we will have the Chinese holiday next week , so can just build the wheelset back from our holiday [February 7, 2014]" so I'll wait until then to order.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:52 am 
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This new "M" series carbon clincher from far sports has my interest. After all the reading up on November's wheel, they concluded that having an 18mm width from clincher wall to clincher wall really made the wheel "rail" in corners, etc. This wheel is the first from China (that I've spotted) to have an aero profile, but ALSO the same 18mm internal width ::

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And, at 1600 grams for 60mm depth, it's not that bad either.

http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/product ... _hubs.html


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:14 pm 
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tharmor wrote:
This new "M" series carbon clincher from far sports has my interest. After all the reading up on November's wheel, they concluded that having an 18mm width from clincher wall to clincher wall really made the wheel "rail" in corners, etc. This wheel is the first from China (that I've spotted) to have an aero profile, but ALSO the same 18mm internal width ::

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And, at 1600 grams for 60mm depth, it's not that bad either.

http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/product ... _hubs.html


This is an old design thats been out a while and its more like the pre-firecrest wheels. the flat brake trac negatively effects the aero performance a lot. You'd be better off in my opinion going with a newer design that has a more aero shape with the brake trac aiding the aero effect. Far Sport has a couple of those new designs that are more like the November, Firecrest design.

Light-Bicycle has the internal width at just over 17mm and I think the Hongfu is around 18mm, not sure what the internal diameter of the new Far Sports wheels is but its probably in the 17 range


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:41 pm 
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^very good point. I admit I didn't even notice the "bulge". Definitely older aero shaping. I found the drawing for the HongFu clincher, and it measures 16.9mm. Weirdly I couldn't find the Light-Bicycle schematic. I'm certain it is found in this thread, but given that we have 49 pages now, I'm not really interested in searching for it.

Anyone happen to have a copy of it?

**Edit**

I found it using google (which is where I should have looked first). Their rim measures 17.1mm.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:30 pm 
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tharmor, if you like Far Sports then I think you'd be better off with these 50x24 with a newer aero design. This is actually really close to the shape for the November Rail but 1 mm thinner at 17mm.

http://wheelsfar.com/wide-50x24mm-clinc ... p-299.html

I think somebody in this thread got a set of these if I'm not mistaken. Farsports is complicated cause they have so many designs and they all label them as U-shape. Its hard to tell which ones are actually in the same design philosophy of November, Light-Bicycle, or Hungfu. Have them send you the cross section to make sure.

Hongfu, Light-Bicycle, or these Farsports all would be great choices in my opinion.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:51 am 
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Yeah, until recently (sold the bike) I had a set of the Farsports 50x24 (I think someone else here does too). I now have a set of LB U45 wheels.

The Farsports were fine, but the finish quality on the LB wheels seems to be much better -- very smooth/straight rim bead, tires fit tighter on rims (so better for tubeless), ERD was exactly same on both rims and matched mfr spec, finish (3k matte for me) was almost flawless (one small little wrinkle/seam). I will say that there are folks talking about issues with LB braking surface (maybe that was this thread?); I cannot comment on that since I ordered mine without brake surface (disc-brake wheels).

Didn't have any problems with Farsports braking or brake surface, though it was not very good at stopping the bike -- but from what I gather it was on par with other carbon rims. I also can't compare ride, since I haven't really ridden the new wheels yet -- and it is not apples-to-apples (more spokes on LB, 2x lacing f/r, etc.).


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:54 pm 
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Cool, thats my experience regarding the Light-Bicycle wheelset. The things are just about perfect, after thousands of miles they spin and perform just like the day i got them. The finish is coming off at the brake trac as I have the older style brake surface but honestly I don't care. i don't see it as a big deal cause its just slowly looking just like the newer unpainted ones. They offered me new rims but I haven't gotten them.

Light-Bicycle builds a good wheel!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:51 pm 
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Greetings Forum members. First time poster here so slap my wrist if I ask anything "challenged". I don't want this to ,by any means, slander a company name as I haven't even gotten a chance to get my hands on the product. But has anyone here had issues with the shipping process from China? I took the plunge and ordered a customized set of 28H carbon rims drilled for internal spokes. Was quite impressed with the company's communication, clarity, response time, and my overall experience. BUT as I said, I have yet to receive the rims. Was given a tracking number in great time, but its as if its being sent here to the U.S. via horseback. Tomorrow will be two months from the date it was sent. The website doesn't update anything according to the tracking number. I have contacted the manufacturer, and they are always gracious in response and assuring me its not lost. But come on.....TWO MONTHS?!?!?! Guess I am just looking to see if anyone else has had a similar experience, and if in fact this EMS shipping is just that GARBAGE?

Thanks in advance


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:24 pm 
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Just to let you know that more than likely your rims are stuck in customs. I've had a cassette I got from Chain Reaction (British outfit) that took over a month to get to my doorstep. Anytime you order something outside the US you run the risk of it getting stuck in customs. Shipper has no control over this, assuming they haven't screwed up the paper work.


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