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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:30 am 
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Looks to be similar, but the Ritte has a different seattube/seatstay junction and the rear derailleur cable is routed thru the chainstay.
The Pedalforce has a standard cable stop.


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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:15 am 
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If you'll read any information on them, you will see that their frames are indeed Asian made, but they are not repainted PF or any other brand frame...they were designed by a Taiwanese engineer and then customized to Ritte's specifications.
http://www.ritteracing.com/blog/2010/02/wheres-your-bike-made/


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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:51 am 
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dwn2sk8 wrote:
If you'll read any information on them, you will see that their frames are indeed Asian made, but they are not repainted PF or any other brand frame...they were designed by a Taiwanese engineer and then customized to Ritte's specifications.
http://www.ritteracing.com/blog/2010/02/wheres-your-bike-made/



It is indeed the same as a Pedalforce QS3 but with an ISP. A friend of mine has a lovely Bosberg and I had been seriously considering one last summer, did a bunch of research on it and found a thread where Spencer had acknowledged the fact (see second quote)

Not a big deal except the Ritte is now $2200 which was way too much to spend on a frame that can be had for $800 imo. Originally it was something like $1450, that I possibly could justify but the price kept creeping up. (Ended up getting a BMC Pro Machine new for $1350)
Still see a few Rittes around here in SoCal, they look great, especially in white

smashzilla wrote:
Hey everybody,
I'm Spencer from Ritte Cycles. Saw this conversation unfolding and thought I'd clear up the confusion. I believe there is too much smoke and mirrors in the carbon frame world, with most manufactures treating the origins of their bikes like shameful family secrets. Fact is almost everyone of you, no matter how proud you are of your BH or Colnago or Cervelo, are riding a frame made in one of a few Chinese factories. But that doesn't make them bad bikes, it actually makes them great bikes. China knows how to do carbon.

Pedal Force is a brand that buys large quantities of a factory's bare frames. Other brands have been similarly close to Pedal Force as well, a few years ago it was a Fondriest, though most people don't call Fondriests "generics." Fact is, the Bosberg is not a CG1 (just look at the chainstays), though they do share the same designer.

Our goal with Ritte is to supply racers and serious roadies the best possible bikes for a price that's just high enough that we can stay in business. One way we accomplished this was by partnering with a Taiwanese company that specializes in designing carbon frames. They have worked with some of the most coveted brands on the market, and we were lucky enough to work with them to develop the Bosberg. The design company holds the rights to the design and own the molds, and we don't have to pay for them, which means our customers don't have to pay for them. Of course, since we don't have exclusive rights, companies like PF can purchase frames made from the same mold. So maybe this year's Bosberg will indeed be next year's PF. It's either that, or the Bosberg ends up costing $3,200 instead of less than $1800.

Please feel free to visit the site and send us any other questions you may have.

Cheers.


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Well Sasha011, it looks like the QS3 is using the mold now without the seat mast. The seat mast is a fantastic feature that really ties the bike together, so I onder why they didn't choose to use it? Anybody's welcome to buy the QS3 instead of the Bosberg, or the PF that's actually a Fondriest, or the one that's a Teschner or the one that's a Giant. But where other companies won't ever admit that their frame designs are often shared, we will. What's important to me is that people understand that Rittes are their own brand, not just a re-branded PFs or frames we bought off ebay.

Fact is, we would love to make our bikes in a workshop in Santa Monica and own our molds, but then our frames would cost thousands more and we wouldn't be doing what we set out to do: supply amazing bikes that look great to racers who don't want to be afraid of crashing them.

Cheers,
Spencer


Link to thread viewtopic.php?f=10&t=74005&hilit=ritte&start=30"

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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:37 pm 
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WWW.WIRED.COM HAS A LONG ARTICLE ON THESE BIKES

http://www.wired.com/playbook/2012/01/r ... ru&pid=304


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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:12 pm 
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Miller76 wrote:
http://WWW.WIRED.COM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; HAS A LONG ARTICLE ON THESE BIKES

http://www.wired.com/playbook/2012/01/r ... ru&pid=304" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I like 'em. :beerchug:

Annnnd it looks like someone at their HQ drives a Clownshoe, love it!


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 Post subject: Re: Ritte Bosberg
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:08 pm 
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FWIW: I have loved my QS3 and have nothing but good things to say about it. So, to the extent that it is virtually identical to the Ritte, they are supplying good bicycles.
As pointed out numerous posts before, lots of manufacturers sell rebranded frames that are from different manufacturers or are sourced from the same as other manufacturers. It has been going on since loooooong before Ritte, Pedalforce or carbon molded frames.
Also note that Litespeed was also selling a model that was the same as a pedalforce (I notice the pedalforce models just because I won one.)
We are all free to research these things and place our money where we think get the best value, so I don't understand why anyone would want to disparage any of the bike companies.


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