You could always tune the lightweights
Obermayer with carbon axels,ceramic bearings and a little job on the body will take them down a lot and they are still stiffer than the enve.
About the über ww build. It is not an über. It is just an expensive regular ww bike. A nice one for sure but there is almost no part which is really tuned to the max.
Which makes it all the more impressive, given its weight
Find me a uber light bike that doesn't have Schmolke parts, THM, AX-Lightness, Tune or Lightweights (although not all that Lightweight). I could tune the sh*t out of every component and drop a few grams or I could keep it as is and have an "everyday" 8lb bike. No disrespect to those other builds, but I won't be using downtube shifters, single speed cassettes, a handlebar that is cut to eliminate the drops without bar tape or *gasp* Tufos (light but crap so I won't do it). The wheels are rather heavy for a bike like this...I could easily go lower. Everything on this build will be standard stuff. I also will be using a frame that is designed for me and not strictly designed to cut weight. I could have gone with a very short head tube or smaller frame and saved ALOT of weight. A funky angled stem to compensate is much lighter than additional frame dimensions. My seatpost is straight with no setback. I could have used a shorter toptube with a setback as well. So if you stop for a minute, relax and look at the big picture you'll accept that this is an uber-weenie build, but if you don't...what do I care
Well said. I can't understand the negativity on this site. This is going to be one mutha funking bike.