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gospastic

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:30 pm

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I've seen it done before. This (ugly) bike has the same basic idea:

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prendrefeu

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:12 pm

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I don't think that bike is too bad. I'd definitely ride it.
Is it on offer?

But re: the stem notion: On that bike (above), it is really unnecessary since they are not using Cantilever brakes.
The cable-through-stem concept is for cantilever brakes specifically, where the cable connects with the brake system vertically center.

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USofChay

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:35 pm

Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 11:24 pm
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For anyone wondering about the wait on a custom bike. Even though Rob is as prompt as anyone could reasonably expect, I just want to say that you don't know suffering until you order a custom bike. I feel like i'm a wait-weenie.

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jdp211

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:29 am

Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:26 am
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gospastic wrote:

I've seen it done before. This (ugly) bike has the same basic idea:

There was also a show bike at Interbike or Eurobike this year (can't remember), with an ENVE stem drilled out for center pull

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xnavalav8r

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:24 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:09 pm
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Before linear pull, v-brakes... all the top-end stems had cable stops built into them for cantilever brakes. This was common on mtn bikes, 'cross bikes, and many road bikes as well. It's not a new idea, just a clean execution of an old idea.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379107@N03/4389912095/

http://www.firstflightbikes.com/Lstem121.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yyohe1TJ5So/T ... e-stop.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bishopbikes/5447914251/

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KWalker

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:22 pm

Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:30 pm
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Location: DC

USofChay wrote:

outnumbered wrote:

Aren't you going to get some front braking action whenever you turn the bars ?

KWalker is correct (as usual.) The fork, brakes, stem, and bars are all moving on the same plane so the braking should work well. As far as I know, this is the only stem set up this way. Anyone know if this has been done before?

I know dozens of cross racers that drill out the center of the stem and run the cable through, but they don't have the integrated ferrule holder that you do.

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outnumbered

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:08 pm

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Location: Reading, UK

KWalker wrote:

Yah I was wondering about that as well, but you have to realize that when the bars move the fork also moves as well so the tension in the cable doesn't change. It would only change if one moved and the other didn't

Doh

with hindsight I have no idea why I made that comment!

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USofChay

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:33 am

Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 11:24 pm
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I took a very short ride today. The bike rides beautifully and looks even better covered in mud.

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musket

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:28 am

Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 5:27 pm
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Best recent take on through stem routing is here: http://cielo.chrisking.com/bikes/cross-racer/

Super clean, the top bearing cover for the headset is even integrate to the base of the stem.

Though it'd be nice to see a few more fork mounted stops on CX bikes.

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xnavalav8r

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:28 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:09 pm
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I can't see the stem well, but is it a Moots stem? (on the Cielo)

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USofChay

Post subject: Re: Rob English / English Cycles Cyclocross Build [COMPLETE]

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:14 pm

Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 11:24 pm
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Here's a better picture, Ted.
http://cdn3.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn ... em_600.jpg

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