Cannondale Supersix EvoII HM mod DuraAce 2019 size 52

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mendiz
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First post is why I chose every component,and in the next posts I show the weights in scale of every component and more pics. Still deciding what length of stem,then,I will cut the steerer tube and I need a scale to weigh the complete bike
THE CHOICE OF COMPONENTS
I bought first the components that I was sure.

- Saddle Ax Lightness Endurance 3k, I am using this saddle from 2006, I will use for life this model,while they sell

- Handlebar Ax Lightness AX4200 in 42 cms. I picked because it has the shortest reach 66 mm. I think Schmolke bar I used before had better finish,but similar stiffness. I recommend completely. I really think AX Lightness is the brand with more quality in components

-Brakes Dura Ace 9100 I wanted the best functional brakes,I had ZG and they were speed reducers,not real brakes, I did not chose THM because I thought were more complicated with reviews here

-Shifters Dura Ace 9100 I did not want to wait,and spend much more with Di2. I think to use a few years,although I will see when Shimano announce new Dura Ace

-Front derailleur Dura Ace 9100 same like shifters

-Rear derailleur Dura Ace 9100 same like shifters

-Chain HG901 I want the best possible shifting and when I used KMC in other bike was slightly worse

-Brake and Shifting cables and housing Dura Ace I think that with Dura Ace will shift better although I really I cannot compare to other cables

-Cranks Dura Ace 9100 I chose because I like the most aesthetically, more than THM Clavicula

-Outer chainring Ultegra R8000 46 I knew too that I would use 46 teeth

-Inner chainring Specialites TA 33 I want to spin climbing
In the future for sure I will use 46/30 chainrings,I think Rotor Aldhu

-Cassete Ultegra 12/13/14/15/16/17/19/21/24/27/30 I mixed the cassetes Ultegra R8000 12-25 and 11-30,the 6 first sprockets are from 12-25, and the 5 last sprockets of 11-30. Before I used 50-38 chainrings and 12-27,or 12-30. I used 50x12 very rare times,only in races with back wind or slight downhill,now I ride alone or with groups, is not necessary for me. 46x12 is 4 cms less than 50x13. If I race,I will put 11-30,2 cms more than 50x12

-Bottle cages CarbonWorks for me the nicest. Several years ago I used BTP from Bernard Lagerbein for 10 years and CarbonWorks are better, more grip. I think if I race again I will use Wolf tooth ti or Silca ti

-Screws for bottle cages Schmolke carbon It works, I wanted to have some part of Schmolke,mythical brand

-Chain catcher Absolute black I like because it is without logos and adjustable.Rotor has logos and Carbonice and Fibre Lyte are not adjustable

-Pedals Time XPro15 I used the old Time RXS Titan a lot of years and worked perfectly ,very comfortable, I did not like Look when I used 25 years ago and I did not want experiment,never I used Dura Ace pedals I think with the news about Time I will stockpile a lot of cleats

-Lighweight Meilenstein T 24E The mythical wheel brand I wanted to have from I saw Jan Ulrich, Johan Museeuw,Lance Armstrong, Frank Vandenbroucke, Cipollini, Pantani, etc. For me are road cycling professional history. I bought for the awesome look but can I say? I smile every time I ride the bike,incredibly stiffness, is like ride over rails. I chose in 20 spokes the front wheel because I wanted the maximum stifness although I weigh 71 kilos,I think with 16 spokes would have been enough. I am sure in the future I will buy Gipfelsturm wheels

-Bar tape Lizard Skin 1.8 I wanted the thinnest bar tape with grip, no cotton or Deda Traforato because less grip

- Bar plugs Schmolke simply looking for the last detail and I appreciate Schmolke like brand

Next components,I was deciding for a while

-Frame Cannondale Supersix Evo II HM mod Durace grey and blue When I started to look frames I wanted a very light frame with classic shape, not pressfit and use it for many years and not aero, I thought about Lynskey Helix,but too heavy. Pinarello Dogma for me are aesthetically awful. My first pick was Trek Emonda SLR because AX Lightness Vial and Litespeed T1SL were very expensive for me, I was going to buy Emonda SLR but I was not conviced of shape of top tube ,like a hyena back ,not flat.I saw ugly, so I began to visit every lbs to see every frame: BMC SLR01, Giant TCR, Merida Scultura, Look 785 Huez RS,Factor 02,Scott Addict, Bianchi Specialissima, Specialized Tarmac Sworks,Orbea Orca. My impressions were that the best finish frames were for order ,Factor 02,awesome paint,the best by far,Giant TCR,BMC SLR01 because I discarded Emonda SLR with great finish too. Factor too much money for me. When I saw Tarmac Sworks I thought this frame looks cheap, not worth the money they say by far.
Finally I had 2 frames I liked with classic shape: Look 785 Huez RS in white,really precious frame,but with I think at least 10 big Look stickers,what way to destroy the frame aesthetic. and Cannondale Supersix
I chose this frame and fork the day I saw the bikes of two lbs owners in orange,the model of 2018 in two local bike shops,one with Dura Ace ,another with Etap
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So I looked the colours in Supersix in 2019, I fell in love with the colour I have

-Seatpost Mcfk With the frame with 25.4 diameter I had very few options with no offset seatpost,only Mcfk and Zipp, Mcfk much lighter,I have liked what is hand made although AX Lightness and Schmolke products have better finish

-Seatpost clamp Canondale I want maximum reliability so I discarded Darimo,besides someone I know with slippage problems although in mtb bike

-Tubulars Veloflex Roubaix 25 I though FMB silk service course but much more expensive , I will try FMB when these tyres wear. I was using Veloflex clinchers for 15 years , for me the best clinchers.First time I use tubular wheels and I think why do not I tried before.Tubulars always from now

-Quick release Campagnolo QR12 I have using the first few months the Lightweight quick releases that come with the wheelset and I think are rubbish,incredible that a company like Lightweight sell these quick releases,are the same that we can see in 10,20 differents brands rebranded,Fourniers,XLC,etc
I think that Dura Ace quick release has better mechanism than Campagnolo but for me are awful,too big.I like the aesthetics of Campagnolo, and I like to have one component of the mythical brand

-Tape tubular Tufo Extreme 22 I think that glue will roll better but I prefer the no hassle of tubular tape.

-Valve extensions Challenge I picked these because their length is 41 mm and Lighweight 28 mm.With FMB tyres I will use Lightweights extensions

-Stem AX Lightness Rigid Still I have not bought, I am trying Ritchey Comp 4 axis in 90 and 100 mm to decide what length I prefer

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THE COMPONENTS WEIGHTS
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913.6 grams with BB30 bearings and hanger
I substract the BB30 bearings
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And substract Seat clamp 13 grs, I forgot to weigh the mine
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We have the frame at 822 grams in size 52 with derailleur hanger
- Fork uncut at 311 grs
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- Upper part bearing headset 21 grs
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- Lower part bearing headset 28 grs
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-Seal 4 grs
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I am using the conical spacer at 25 mm 17 grs
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-Expander and top cap is Cannondale , I forgot to weigh mine,guess 17 grs
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although I put Schmolke SL first but my mechanic asked if was the original expander and I decided to put the Cannondale Image
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-Bottom bracket C-Bear to use Dura Ace cranks 135 grs
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by MichaelK

mendiz wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 4:56 pm
We have the frame at 822 grams in size 52
That's a heavy paint job on that one. Did you include the derailleur hanger/frame hardware? My 2018 in the silver colourway was 729g bare.

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I continue with Schmolke carbon bolts for bottle cages M5x40 at 1 gr but the mechanic cut to 20mm
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-CarbonWorks bottle cages 7 grs
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-The seatpost is MCFK 25.4x320mm 126 grs
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-The saddle AX-Lightness Endurance 3k 87 grs
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-The stem will be Ax Lightness Rigid, still trying 100 mm and tomorrow 90 mm Ritchey Comp 4axis to decide the correct length
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-The Handlebar is AX-Lightness AX4200 42 cms 160 grs
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-Bar tape Lizard Skins DSP 1.8 52 grs
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-Handlebar plugs Schmolke carbon 4 grs
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Good to see all the details of your build. I like what I see

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The Groupset is Dura Ace 9100

- Pivot nuts for brakes Dura Ace R9100 21 grs
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The brakes
Front brake 164 grs
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Rear brake 163 grs
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I weighed both brakes with Dura Ace pads for aluminium 24 grs
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-I am using Lighweight pads by Swisstop 30 grs
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so I add 7 grams more ,so total 334 grs

-Front derailleur Dura Ace R9100 70 grs
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-Chain catcher Absolute black 12 grs
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-Rear derailleur Dura Ace R9100 159 grs
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-Chain HG901
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less 5 links
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So weighs 230 grs with 111 links

-Cassette Ultegra R8000 is a mix of 12-25 and 11-30, the six first sprockets from 12-25=12,13,14,15,16,17 and the last five from 11-30=19,21,24,27,30
I prefer to have the 16 teeth sprocket than 11 teeth sprocket. Like 11-30 cassette is 269 grs+ 8grs from 16 teeth sprocket over 11 teeth the cassette is 277 grs
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-Cranks Shimano Dura Ace 9100 172.5 mm 631
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I changed the chainring 50 teeth Dura Ace ,105 grams
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-for chainring 46 teeth Ultegra 88 grams
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plus cover caps Ultegra for 46 chainring,although I did not weigh the covers only
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Too I will change the 34 teeth Dura Ace chainring for Specialites TA 33 chainring
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- Shifters Dura Ace 9100 369 grs
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I will put the weighs of housing and cables but before installing so is not the real weight in the bike:
Brake housing 180 mm
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Shifting housing 60 cmsx2
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Shifting housing 30 cms OT-SP41 for rear derailleur
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Shifting cable
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Brake cable
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This is the brake housing left
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by Verbal

Suscribe !
I have nearly same setup (frame/color/groupset/wheels...) yours will be really close to sub 6kg I think.
What can you says about the mfk seatpost? I'm loocking for a 0 setback one...
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The last pics of components for wheels and pedals
-Rear wheel Lighweight Meilenstein T 24E tubular 673 grs
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-Front wheel Lightweight Meilenstein T 24E tubular 518 grs
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for total weight wheelset of 1190 grs

-Tyres Veloflex Roubaix 25 mm 303 grsx2=606 grs
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-Tape Tufo Extreme 22 mm 38 grs
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-Valve extensor 4 grs ,now I am using Challenge of 41 mm because I though Lighweight extensor of 28 mm would be a bit short. I will use the Lighweight next time I mount tubular. I did not weigh Challenge
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-Quick releases Campagnolo QR12 120 grs
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Front skewer 57 grs
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Rear skewer 63 grs
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-Pedals Time XPro 15 177 grs
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@Verbal, I have laughed when I saw your post because I printed your pic last year when you posted your bike, I wanted to know how looked like this frame that I liked a lot the colour grey and blue with Lighweight wheelset because I bought the parts during several months.
About the Mcfk seatpost I can only say it works perfect. It clamps very secure the saddle AX and very easy to adjust with the 2 bolts,besides you can buy spare parts,the inlays,yoke,clamping plate,and compensator. Ah,and stickers in every colour. I bought first in UD-matt but when I received I did not like,so I changed for the version in 3k , for me much nicer and is 3k like my favourite saddle all time AXLightness Endurance. Comparing the finish in UD matt with the handlebar AX Lightness in UD matt the handlebar is a lot nicer, looks like much better finish
I feel very comfortable,although to know if is for the seatpost for me is impossible to say.
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by Verbal

@mendiz so happy to read that.
That's for me the goal of this type of forum.
Thanks for your answer about the seatpost, it's definitively my next update.
An other funny things, I also use campy quick release, exactly for the same reason !

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