2010 Neo Ultimate - 5.2Kg -- further updates
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AX lightness makes intergrated seats and seatposts on order. I know Tune used to do so as well, but I don't know about them now.
The ax combo on Jan Ullrichs bike during a TDF
Pics courtesy of cyclingnews
AX lightness makes intergrated seats and seatposts on order. I know Tune used to do so as well, but I don't know about them now.
The ax combo on Jan Ullrichs bike during a TDF
Pics courtesy of cyclingnews
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Just posted new photos of latest mods/tunes/parts:
New 2010 EE brakes. With a very "technical" look, perhaps not for everyone, but they are a complete rework of the design. And the same weight as my ZeroG brakes, but these work!
Complete sanding of the bars, and removal of the majority of decals from the Red brake levers and shifters.
New Emporelli bottle cage. Incredibly expensive, but amazing in how easy to get in/out and grip.
Small details. New pictures on the first page.
Still weighs about 11.5lbs, still rides like a dream...
New 2010 EE brakes. With a very "technical" look, perhaps not for everyone, but they are a complete rework of the design. And the same weight as my ZeroG brakes, but these work!
Complete sanding of the bars, and removal of the majority of decals from the Red brake levers and shifters.
New Emporelli bottle cage. Incredibly expensive, but amazing in how easy to get in/out and grip.
Small details. New pictures on the first page.
Still weighs about 11.5lbs, still rides like a dream...
dr Phil Gandini
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
Looking better every time. Those brake calipers are not the prettiest, but they look right on that build. I also think the pic of the bar/stem combo posted by Frankie would make it look that bit more elegant, but boy does it look good with the bars sanded down.
The only other thing I would change is take the red out of the headset and seat clamp.
one gorgeous looking bike, especially at that weight. Well done.
The only other thing I would change is take the red out of the headset and seat clamp.
one gorgeous looking bike, especially at that weight. Well done.
Yes, the brakes are not pretty for sure. But they do work!
I can't keep buying bars: I almost have a bike shop of bars--Cinelli Rams, Kestrel EMS, TTT199s. I even tried some TLOs.
I think bars are like saddles and pedals--they are the most personal parts of the bike.
Thanks for the props. This bike has certainly made my riding so enjoyable, I think about riding even when I'm not riding.
I can't keep buying bars: I almost have a bike shop of bars--Cinelli Rams, Kestrel EMS, TTT199s. I even tried some TLOs.
I think bars are like saddles and pedals--they are the most personal parts of the bike.
Thanks for the props. This bike has certainly made my riding so enjoyable, I think about riding even when I'm not riding.
Last edited by gandini on Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
dr Phil Gandini
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
I really like this project and keep thinking to myself that maybe, just maybe I could think about buying a new light weight frame instead of riding my aero frame. The more I look at your build, the more I think about it.
Great work.
Great work.
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I've come to enjoy the ultra-stealth look and your bike is just awesome. I agree that if you ride your bike everyday, you have to choose what you like best. Sure there are some stems and bars that could cut down the weight by 150g, but if they don't suit your riding style, it doesn't really matter.
Unless you attend the shows with your builds, most of us just ride our bikes ourselves. If they become un-ridable, they're no longer useful.
Unless you attend the shows with your builds, most of us just ride our bikes ourselves. If they become un-ridable, they're no longer useful.
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Did you sanded all of the bar/stem or just where the paint where?
Did you sanded all of the bar/stem or just where the paint where?
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Phil - you've built a very beautiful bike, and kudos for all the customizations and little details you've thrown in. The only thing on the bike that to me looks out of place is the rear derailleur. The carbon swing arm is very easy to remove, and it would be very little work to sand off the decals and re-clearcoat. Also what about a Super Record front derailleur rather than a 7900 with fake carbon wrap?
Yes, when I get the time, I will sand the rear derailleur! As for the front derailleur, I have a Record CF, but it doesn't shift as well as the 7900, and weighs more. Crazy huh? I ran it for a while just to have the CF look, but in the end I went for the better shifting unit (and covered it up just to reduce the glare from the chrome
+noah: I sanded the whole bar down, just to get the new finish even. I am using increasingly fine paper, then polishing mops, then beeswax for the finish. I had to repaint the Al steerer clamp, as it was glossy black paint, and when I sanded the stem area I revealed a bit of adhesive that had squeezed out during manufacture. The new matte finish is cosmetic, but it looks just fine in person.
+noah: I sanded the whole bar down, just to get the new finish even. I am using increasingly fine paper, then polishing mops, then beeswax for the finish. I had to repaint the Al steerer clamp, as it was glossy black paint, and when I sanded the stem area I revealed a bit of adhesive that had squeezed out during manufacture. The new matte finish is cosmetic, but it looks just fine in person.
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I'm actually a big fan of the EE brakes and think they look great - both on Phil's bike and in general
Phil - do you get many comments or questions in the bunch or at cafes? Or is it that stealth people have little idea what they are passing?
And Frankie I had no idea anyone in the Pro peloton had run a setup like that, especially Jan. Must have really wanted to shed as much weight as possible.
Phil - do you get many comments or questions in the bunch or at cafes? Or is it that stealth people have little idea what they are passing?
And Frankie I had no idea anyone in the Pro peloton had run a setup like that, especially Jan. Must have really wanted to shed as much weight as possible.
Thanks. I really appreciate the comments. It has been my experience that no-one ever appreciates your bike (or car, or whatever) as much as you do, and so expecting others to give it more than a passing glance is expecting too much. This forum is about the best place on the planet for having people actually know what you've done to a bike, and really taking to the time to look.
I've ridden the 2010 EE brakes for a month now, and they are clearly superior to the Zero Gs I was running (with the same pads). They are exactly the same weight so no penalty or gain there, but the pull is much more linear. Stopping is truly a function of how hard you pull on the brake lever, and they inspire confidence. Unfortunately, as with many things on WW bikes, the form follows function and they don't appeal to my aesthetic, but they don't stand out being black on an all black bike.
As for Jan Ullrich's bike--he always seemed to be hooked up with the really fancy German stuff. He rode LW wheels, AX lightness saddle/post, and Schmolke bars long before they became mainstream (for us WWs, that is.) I know that lots of other pros rode LWs (unmarked of course), but don't know how common the other ultralight German parts were. Ullrich must always have been close to the weight limit, as well as the riding limit!
I've ridden the 2010 EE brakes for a month now, and they are clearly superior to the Zero Gs I was running (with the same pads). They are exactly the same weight so no penalty or gain there, but the pull is much more linear. Stopping is truly a function of how hard you pull on the brake lever, and they inspire confidence. Unfortunately, as with many things on WW bikes, the form follows function and they don't appeal to my aesthetic, but they don't stand out being black on an all black bike.
As for Jan Ullrich's bike--he always seemed to be hooked up with the really fancy German stuff. He rode LW wheels, AX lightness saddle/post, and Schmolke bars long before they became mainstream (for us WWs, that is.) I know that lots of other pros rode LWs (unmarked of course), but don't know how common the other ultralight German parts were. Ullrich must always have been close to the weight limit, as well as the riding limit!
dr Phil Gandini
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
Link to my 11.5lb Neo Ultimate
gandini -your bike is a great example of pure WWism while still achieving a high level of excellence in a particular aesthetic. Bravo.
Ullrich was riding lots of those parts before 6.8 came in. Jesus man, it would be open season with today's parts with no limit!
Ullrich was riding lots of those parts before 6.8 came in. Jesus man, it would be open season with today's parts with no limit!
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