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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:17 am 
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Hey all,
A good friend of mine lent me his Dogma laying around, I will ride it until he finds a buyer(won't be me).

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Frame: Pinarello Dogma 60.1, 55 cm

Fork: Pinarello Onda

Stem: Debadged Kalloy Uno 120 mm, -6 deg

Handlebars: Easton EC90 SLX3, 42 cm c-c

Seatpost: Pinarello

Saddle: Selle Italia X1 Flow

Crankset: Shimano FC-6800, 53/39, 172.5 mm

Chain: Shimano HG600

Brakes: Shimano BR-5700

Brake pads: Campag red front, Shimano R55C4 rear

BB: Shimano SM-BBR60

Pedals: Shimano PD-5700

Bartape: Zipp Service Course

Bottle cages: Pinarello/Elite

Computer: Sigma ROX 5.0 with jury-rigged Garmin mount

Wheelset: 50x25 mm Farsports clinchers

Tyres: Continental Grand Prix 4000S II 23 mm

Inner tubes: Schwalbe long valves

Cassette: Shimano CS-5700 12-27

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:05 am 
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Nice ride! weight? :)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:35 pm 
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Why will you not be the rider? I am curious about your comments on the ride as I have only talked with people who have dropped a lot of $$$ on it and then have nothing but praise for it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:21 pm 
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The frame is a classic IMHO.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:22 pm 
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First ride today, went up a HC climb. It's very stiff and a beautiful ride, but I wasn't blown away, really. It's a great ride, hands down, but I'm more after performance (read: stiffness, aero) and I can get a better performing, but less of a red carpet bike for the same money. The Dogma, OTOH, has aesthetics and heritage which I don't need and still have to pay for.

I'd ride the sh1t out of it, but wouldn't pay for it unless he makes a killer deal. (it's $1500 btw, if you're interested)



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:44 pm 
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How do you design something that looks like that. I never used to like it but I worringly find it growing on me - HOW?

(1) - Yeah we'll design a cycle and it'll be made of a front and rear triangles cos triangles are strong.
(2) - yeah that sounds perfect. How big do we make the respective triangles?
(1) - huh? well how big do we make the wheels?
(2) - huh?

I think things that are hard to define should be left to the least possible number. e.g. keep the triangles straight and the tubes round and you could end up with a geometry that works. I think these 'innovations' are turning cycle manufacture into art when it's ENGINEERING.

Not that it wouldn't be more appealing to hang on the wall versus a Picasso.
Art or Engineering?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:19 pm 
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Not sure what you meant by that. Are you saying that the bikes shouldn't be all engineering?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:05 pm 
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You can hang art on the wall and so long as it's fixed securely there should be no chance of you getting knocked over - Which would be nice.

Engineering is understood but Art can't be understood - Is that the definition?

I guess maybe it looks like I feel on some of the roads round here but I would rather fix the roads than ride a Vibrator.

I don't want to like this bike, lets all fix the roads.

I hope I've made myself crystal clear. :noidea:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:45 pm 
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Yeah, got you now.

BTW the bike weighs a portly 8.4 kg with all hardware.


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