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 Post subject: Re: Pictures of Colnagos
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:51 pm 
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@adry85- uh.....that looks like the drive side? Even if he thought it was English threaded, don't you turn counter-clockwise to loosen it?

English threaded bottom brackets are left hand threads on the drive side. You loosen them by turning them clockwise. It would appear the mechanic assumed it was English threaded and was turning it clockwise. But it was Italian threaded (as any C40 would be), and by turning clockwise he was fighting a losing battle. Make sure your mechanic knows the difference, especially if he's young and in a shop where they rarely see older Italian steeds. Italian threaded bottom brackets are just dumb anyway, never understood why they were done that way... as much as I love all things Italian... the Italian threads are just silly. Colnago switched from Italian threaded BB's to English in 2008.

edit: Actually, I'll just add that the "English" figured out that the way bearings roll within the cups, the bb's would tend to loosen if threaded in the "normal" (clockwise) direction for tightening things (try riding an older Italian threaded bottom bracket that's slightly loose and see how long it takes before it unscrews itself). Anyway, It seems backwards, but the English realized these forces would be negated by using the left hand thread on the drive side. I used to think the Japanese figured it out first, because all Shimano was threaded that way :lol:. And the Italians, reluctant to change anything just because those damn Englishmen did it, continued on for years and years with an inferior method. Then, just when we all seemed to be finally in agreement with threading in bottom brackets all the same way... frame manufacturers decided to just press the damn things in and let whoever wanted to make bottom brackets figure out how they wanted to do it.

And voila... here we are with a zillion different standards that press into frames and creak all the time. Gotta love it. :beerchug:

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driveside you loosen the bottom bracket clockwise on BSA. ITA and BSA are the same on the left side. tragic breaking a frame like that

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The latest addition to my stable, a 57 C50 in PR00. I've been looking for one for ages, so when this came up I had to have it. I built it up with Chorus 11 with the exception of the brakes which are early Super Record. The ride is sublime with the Neutrons. Weighs 7.6kg as pictured.

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@Calnago, Cerro- I stand corrected. :oops:

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@Mockenroe, That's beautiful ! Only thing I would change is for classic drop handlebars, ant -17 stem, but that's just me...I am archaic like that.... :)


PS, me? ITA threads forever

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Such a beautiful bike Adry! It's a shame to see ever more C-40s broken. The lines on those frames are so beautiful. I'd skip the Master and try to find another one.

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Calnago, which shop do you frequent out there for Colnago related issues?

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@Vagabond... I remember you commenting some time ago on a shop over on the Eastside. Well, that shop has changed ownership a number of times and I rarely go there. I'm pretty much on my own with Colnago related issues as I wouldn't let anyone else touch my bikes anyway. I asked a buddy (who used to run the shop I'm sure you're speaking of) if he knew you and he did. Did he give you a top cap for your stem? In fact, I caught up with him yesterday. Send me a PM if you like.


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SalsaLover wrote:
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... me? ITA threads forever

May I ask why? And "just cuz" only counts as an answer if we're talking subjective aesthetic reasons or if you're under 5 years old :)


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But an Italian threaded bike won the last two TdFs! :lol:

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@Irongatsby... touché! But I'm still putting that answer in the "just cuz" category. Lol.


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@calnago...thanks for your clear description on English vs Italian BB thread. Total agree with you. I personally don't think its a question about like of dislike. It simply is a matter of correct or incorrect.

BB is a topic I don't feel like talking about it too much not because I find it too technical or too boring to share in a chat. Everytime when I think about the many different BBsssss, I just go mad. Allow me pls, the more than eight different BBs in the current market is just "a total complete mess".

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My C59 with Power2Max B.O.R. crankset. I think I need a lower profile mount for the Navi2Coach computer, to move it down and forward.

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Perfect!


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whoa very nice. I'm not particularly fond of the c59s but that is a beauty


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