Pinarello F12 Rim brake build

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Boshk
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by Boshk

Pinarello F12 Rim brake size 50 Team Ineos build

Haven't quite figured out what I want yet, but here are some photos and more importantly, weights of some of the components and frame.

Advertised weight is 820g, thats unpainted and as you will see, when its painted in Team Ineos colours, its close to 992g.
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Boshk
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by Boshk

Presentation wise, standard cardboard shipping box, some form inside to protect the frame and just 2 plastic bags with all the required accessories.

Compared to my Colnago C60, pretty slack.
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Italian thread bb
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Seatpost weight....221g
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The clamp weight is 57grams

Stem/fork cap
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Headset pieces
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Boshk
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by Boshk

Frame weight without headset bearings 992g
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headset bearing weight 31g each (two)
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Fork uncut weight with expander 466g
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Boshk
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by Boshk

frame with and without upper headset bearing
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uncut fork
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mechanical cabling adapter
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Attempt to route brake cable (campagnolo Ultra shift rear brake housing)
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rear brake cable exit
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rear derailleur internal cable route.....had to sand the hole slightly to remove paint so that the metal grommet could fit
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Attachments
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DaveChow
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by DaveChow

Beautiful frame. Can't wait to see your complete build!

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jobvisser
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by jobvisser

Nice build man! I always like the style of Pinarellos. Is it true that the steerer tube it 1 1 1/8 at the top but the bearing is a 1 1/2 sized one ?
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Boshk
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by Boshk

DaveChow wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:15 am
Beautiful frame. Can't wait to see your complete build!

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thanks, haven't had time to build it yet, will get photos up when I do

Boshk
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by Boshk

jobvisser wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:28 pm
Nice build man! I always like the style of Pinarellos. Is it true that the steerer tube it 1 1 1/8 at the top but the bearing is a 1 1/2 sized one ?
Yes I believe that is correct. Convectional fork tube diameter 1 1/8.

Both the upper and lower bearings are the same, 31g each with the follow printed:
OD:52 x ID:40 x H:7 x A:45°

this metal plate is the 1st piece before the Most 'shaped' cover
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welchy
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by welchy

Enjoying some true weightweenieing with all the scale action. Looks like this'll build up to be a bit of a stunner, any idea on end build weight goal?

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zappafile123
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I am gobsmacked that some of the parts are *SO* heavy. WTF... 221 g for a seatpost... 466(!!!!) g for a rim-brake fork... 100g for all the headset parts. Crikey. Getting it below 7kg with a power meter and deep dish clinchers would be impossible. So it's like 1720g for the frame, fork (cut), seatpost and headset?

Did you use brake housing all the way through the frame for the rear brake?

Anyway, I'd love to hear a ride report when it's all built. I'm sure it will be a fantastic riding bike.
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Boshk
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by Boshk

zappafile123 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:14 pm
I am gobsmacked that some of the parts are *SO* heavy. WTF... 221 g for a seatpost... 466(!!!!) g for a rim-brake fork... 100g for all the headset parts. Crikey. Getting it below 7kg with a power meter and deep dish clinchers would be impossible. So it's like 1720g for the frame, fork (cut), seatpost and headset?

Did you use brake housing all the way through the frame for the rear brake?

Anyway, I'd love to hear a ride report when it's all built. I'm sure it will be a fantastic riding bike.
Yea I know, its beautifully made and painted, once I get the fork cut etc, I'll let you know but I think it will be a little while.
In regards to your rear brake cable going through the top tube, I have, which would increase the weight that tiny bit more. The 2 holes front and rear are the size of the housing, I cant think of anyway to mitigate the housing through the top tube.

Thinking of replacing:
Headset bearings
Expander which I haven't weigh yet
lightweight skewers
Berks saddle clamp

tabl10s
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by tabl10s

Boshk wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:09 pm
zappafile123 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:14 pm
I am gobsmacked that some of the parts are *SO* heavy. WTF... 221 g for a seatpost... 466(!!!!) g for a rim-brake fork... 100g for all the headset parts. Crikey. Getting it below 7kg with a power meter and deep dish clinchers would be impossible. So it's like 1720g for the frame, fork (cut), seatpost and headset?

Did you use brake housing all the way through the frame for the rear brake?

Anyway, I'd love to hear a ride report when it's all built. I'm sure it will be a fantastic riding bike.
Yea I know, its beautifully made and painted, once I get the fork cut etc, I'll let you know but I think it will be a little while.
In regards to your rear brake cable going through the top tube, I have, which would increase the weight that tiny bit more. The 2 holes front and rear are the size of the housing, I cant think of anyway to mitigate the housing through the top tube.

Thinking of replacing:
Headset bearings
Expander which I haven't weigh yet
lightweight skewers
Berks saddle clamp
The Berk clamp is no longer available.
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.13lbs/5.915kg(w/Roval 64's). Sold.
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg.
2015 Rca. 11.15 lbs(w/Roval CLX 32's)
2015 Rca/NOS(sold).
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight 12.03lbs(w/Roval CLX 50's)

survivor
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by survivor

tabl10s wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:49 am
The Berk clamp is no longer available.
I got one recently from Berk for my F8 although it has been taken off Berk's website. Just email Berk to see whether he still has any clamp inventory left to sell you.

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by fogman

I have a Berk clamp on my F10. Why is it no longer being sold? Hopefully not a safety issue.


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tabl10s
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fogman wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:33 am
I have a Berk clamp on my F10. Why is it no longer being sold? Hopefully not a safety issue.


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As long as you have a Pinarello, I'd keep that clamp.
2015 Pinarello F8: 13.13lbs/5.915kg(w/Roval 64's). Sold.
2016 Rca: 11.07lbs/5.048kg.
2015 Rca. 11.15 lbs(w/Roval CLX 32's)
2015 Rca/NOS(sold).
2018 S-Works SL6 Ultralight 12.03lbs(w/Roval CLX 50's)

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