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 Post subject: Another CR1
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:04 pm 
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Hello,

It is now time to show you my bike.
I build it last year and change things.
It is now the final version.


Frameset: Scott CR1 Ltd Size: S 860 gr
Fork: CR1 Ltd
Groupeset: Dura-Ace 7800 52-42 175 mm crankset
Peadals: Shimano SPD-R SL
Brakes: Zero Gravity
Saddle: SLR (140 gr)
Seatpost: Deda Black Stick Alu 190 gr
Bar: Deda Newton Shallow OS
Stem: Deda Newton 140 mm
Wheels: Speed Composites 24-24
Cassette: Dura-Ace 12-23
Skewers: Salsa Ti
Tubulars: Dugast 22 mm

WEIGHT: 6330 gr


Other wheels:
Ksyrium ES Tubulars/Vittoria CX
Ksyrium SSL2 Tubulars/Continental Sprinter
Tune Gold/Ambrosio chrono/Sapim CX-Ray 28-28
Dura-Ace/Reflex/Sapim Leader/Foxonal tubulars

Bye.

Any comments are of course welcome.

Bye.

Romano


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Another pictures:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:10 pm 
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hi Romano, can you tell me what are your experiences with the speedcomposite wheel?? Are they stiff and do they stay true??

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:19 pm 
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Someone thought so enough to risk upsetting Shimano.

Erik Dekker in his final race (look at the front hub and rim stickers on the shot of him cornering, you can see the rear hub in the other picture).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:22 pm 
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Nice saddle/bardrop you got there :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:35 pm 
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Hy Napoleon,

About speedcomposites wheels I rode about 500 km trainning and races.
They are stiff (I weight 65 Kg) very confy
As you can see front wheel is not the most aero one but very confy that is what impress me more. When you ride bad road wheels absorb a lot of imperfection. You can accelerate very fast. They are always right no problem even when I ride then in competition.
I remark rear spokes are really tighten much more than other wheels.

I only need to test them on very flat races to verify efficiency in this kind of races cause at the training difficult to verify something competition is the best way.

Braking surface is very well finished and you need special brake pads I got with wheels.

Weight is 1040 gr the wheelset in 24-24 so very light and of course an un beatable efficiency for 900 €.

For me the perfect wheel to climb and perhaps on flat but not sure since they are not the most aero one!!!

You can be sure that is good wheels.

Notice that Gerben De Knegt Dutch cyclocross championship ride a part of last season on Speedcomposites wheels. A good argue to verify it is strong wheels.

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Very sweet ride :)
The wheels look nice with the Dugast tires on them. Only the beefy CR1 team-issue fork doesn't fit 100%, but what am i saying? Absolutely gorgeous ride :thumbup:

Keep us updated how the wheels perform. I think about getting a set too next year.


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Thank you Romano. I am considering to buy a set. I will use them especially for climbing and there they will give there best advatage. Like you, i am also just over 60 kg, so that's not the problem. Do you have the laser spokes or the cx-ray?? It will be the first time for me on tubelars!!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:49 am 
Great bike! Also, thanks for the little review of the speed composites wheels because I was actually just looking into those, thanks again, great ride!


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I have them with Lazer spokes. these wheels will be a great surprise for you so I hope.

Of course perhaps it is not as stiff as a 32 spokes wheels about 1600 gr a wheelset or more but I think that Speedcomposite wheels have a stiffness/weight ratio much more higher than an heavy wheels so that is finally a better wheelset. Very easy to accelerate since it is a very light wheelset and stiff enough.

I have no big argue but I am sure rims are very wellbuild cause spokes are very tighten and no problem with that.

I have already try Corima Winium and it is a very very poor stiffness and dangerous to tighten spokes too much rims are not as strong as possible. they are only light. There are also Zipp 202 in the category I nerver ride them but notice that there are not very tighten !!! Perhaps Hyperon can equal Speedcomposite but not sure and when you look at prices the choice is very fast !!!

@Napoleon
You won't compare Tubulars and tyres if you ride Speedcmopposites cause impossible to be as light and more efficient. With tyre rims you are 100-200 gr heavier and unfortunately less efficient cause of struture rims.
If you make it yourself don't hesitate to stick your tubulars very well that is better too much glue than the opposite, that is the main thing you have take care of, and centering the tubulars on the rims after many times it will be easier :wink:

I plan to ride cyclo-cross with them but need another wheelset it could be great to accelerate so fast in cyclocross.

Bye and have a good ride.

Romano.

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Karbon wrote:
Someone thought so enough to risk upsetting Shimano.

Erik Dekker in his final race (look at the front hub and rim stickers on the shot of him cornering, you can see the rear hub in the other picture).



Not a surprise if you know Speedcomposites has been talking to team Rabobank! :wink:

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Winium rims have a recommended tension up to 130kgf. It's the same number as Hyperon rims. I haven't noticed any lack in build stiffness either. Most of it will come from the correct choice in spokes.


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Very nice ride 8)

I like the balance you have between light weight and stiffness, my new build is going to be pretty similar in this respect :)

The only real room for improvement I see is the seatpost - get something with 0 setback seen as your saddle is quite far forward, and you should be able to kill nearly 100g by going with something like a New Ultimate post.


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I would love to see some more pictures of this bike! Maybe also with the other wheelset (Tune Gold/Ambrosio chrono/Sapim CX-Ray 28-28 ). That would make a bombproof combo on the cobbles!

Nice bike!


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You will find photos with other wheels.

I tried Tufo S3Lite tire cause they are light strong but really not efficient good to train but not on races. Tune wheels are light 1277 gr so easy to accelerate not as stiff as other but what of the best wheels at this price about 500 € (GypzyBikz)

I find Dura-Ace soft and really great to train but just limit to race and beautiful same colors and finihing as Dura-Ace groupset so very well suit together.

With Ksyrium I enjoy the ride with CX tubulars you can ride all kind of roads you feel wheels are good. not a big improvement with older version but you can feel it. I also ride them in cyclo-cross and tey are strong enough.


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