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Due to the critisism and conflict my last post received, I am posting again, the proud father of a R700.
After putting some miles on, the brakes and seat are going to be the first to go. I'm going to shoot for all Ultegra 6600. DA too expensive for my chef's salary.


I would suggest removing the "radar disk", "frisbee" or spoke protector from the rear wheel. They have a tendency to come off and cause unreasonable wear on the spokes. Funny that a product designed to protect the spokes actually causes more wear to them. This little guys are required for wheels sold in the us, just like reflectors. They are supposed to keep the chain from dropping behind the cassette effectively locking up the rear wheel. Doesn't really work anyway. As far as the reflector goes, look into a little red blinky light, they will probably clip on to your saddle bag and work about 3000% better then a reflector.

Don't necessarily shoot for all Ultegra, take a look at other options outside of the shimano/campy realm. Shifters you don't have much choice, but take a look at different options for cranks and brakes, as well as, little things like housing and chain. It will make you bike more "your bike" (if that makes sense.)


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Merckx MXM frameset (with Easton fork)
full Campagnolo Record Ultra with carbon cranks
"Merckx" seatpost (Selcof made)
Deda Alanera bars & stem (now replaced by a "squadra corse" version)
fy'zi:k Arione saddle
Shimano SPD-SL pedals
Tacx Tao bottle cages
Campagnolo Bora/Neutron/Eurus wheels
with Continental 22, Vittoria EVO CX or Cont 19 tubulars

I use Polar CS200 or S720 bike computer.


Not the lightest, but light enough, and solid and stiff for all kinds of races.


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Really nice Casran :thumbup:


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campy record cranks are noodely, so is a Merckx frame.

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Considering they're practically equal in stiffness, your statement would indicate that 9 speed DA were noodles as well.


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Campy shouldn't be 10 years behind in crank design.


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Shimano is 30 years behind. They're using a crank/bb design belonging to a patent that has run out prior to the introduction of XTR 2003.


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Remind me which is stiffer?


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Remind me which one wins the most sprints.


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Yes the weight difference is only 103 grams and to your point about using an old design, the Campy design is much older than Shimano 10s.

It would be nice if Shimano produced a carbon crank.

I'm sick of being snobbed by people who think Campy is better because it's european and/or more expensive, the comment made was that Campy wasn't stiff. Comparing the stiffness to 1993 Shimano cranks was silly.


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Why is that silly? For instance, a 32 spoke double butted OP wheel build is still lighter and stiffer than most of the current so called fancy system wheels. The fact remains that Campy cranks still meet and exceed the demands of professional racers. Just look at Boonen, he uses aluminum Record cranks that aren't even as stiff.


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While I agree that many less marketed and aged products remain better than the current bling bling products, 9sp Shimano is obsolete in terms of weight, stiffness and compatability and it's nothing extrodinary that Campy can match the stiffness of an obsolete product.

We bagged out Shimano for not improving DA9 for 9 years, I don't see why Campy is above the same criticism.


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We can agree to disagree. Personally, I never felt DA9 to be outdated or needing any improvement. As a set the DA9 crank + BB was only 30-35 grams heavier than DA10. Only the BB had a slight downside due to the service requirements.


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My new Bike. A Bianchi 928 Carbon L

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Bianchi 928 Carbon L frame 2005
Shimano Dura Ace 9V
FSA Team Issue Cranck
Look Keo
Fizik Arione
Use Carbon Seatpost
Mavic Ksyrium Elite
Tune Quick Release
Tune Bottle Cage

Next thing: American Classic Wheels with Soul Kozak front and read and DT Aerolight. Less then 1200 gr.


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