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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:41 pm 
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Finally my first proper custom frameset after many years of riding stock geometry road frames. Frameset was build with a combination of Columbus tubes appropriately selected based on form and function.

- Columbus HSS top and seat tube
- Columbus Life downtube
- Columbus Max chainstays

The main idea is to build a race purpose frameset with a stiff rear triangle (but not crazy stiff), combined with appropriately sized tubes on the main triangle with a 1 1/8inch standard oversize fork.

Columbus Max chainstay was selected as I wanted something which provides instant and direct response when hammering uphills, custom S-bend seatstays for ride comfort on chip-and-seal surfaces, combination of HSS toptube/seat tube/Life on the main triangle with a short head tube for a solid feel on downhills runs. Head tube will be fitted with a Campagnolo Hiddenset 1 1/8inch (love the sleek look and decently low stack-height) properly mated to an Enve Composite fork. Both shift and brake cables is routed externally for ease of maintenance, not forgetting a BSA threaded bottom bracket (never a fan of PressFit BB to begin with).

The frame/fork will be build with Campagnolo SR11, with a total estimated weight of approximately 7.2kg complete.
Hardly a weightweenie by any standard however I'm hoping it more than makes up for the overall ride quality :lol:

Below are some pictures of the frame, pre-paint.

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:03 pm 
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Outstanding! This is pure beauty as is.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:04 pm 
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You're going to keep the frame raw (clear coated/sealed obviously)... right? right? right?????

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:02 pm 
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It will rust if only clear coated
some have tried a long time ago and never did again , some ( victoire cycles ) tried more recently with their colored varnish , and it rusted too

no bueno


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:05 am 
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romalor wrote:
It will rust if only clear coated
some have tried a long time ago and never did again , some ( victoire cycles ) tried more recently with their colored varnish , and it rusted too

no bueno


Steel frames must be rusting under the paint then also right ?

Clear or Colored Paint should act the same way and protect the steel if its done proper right ?


Really nice bike by the way I cant wait to see it built and to here your ride report.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:30 am 
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Interior of frame: Frame Saver (or equivalent)
Exterior: clearcoat, wax, or clear powdercoat.

romalor your frame was not protected, sorry man.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:00 am 
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@prendrefeu,

Frameset/fork will be custom painted.
And yes it's treated with frame saver (or equivalent) as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:06 am 
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Custom painted clear, right?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:20 am 
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@Ryan,
Nope.
Properly painted, not clear.


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http://theradavist.com/2013/01/why-clea ... esnt-work/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:13 pm 
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Look cool, but IMO ask Mr. Wittson if he sell Ti ISP adapter for saddle. I also have some Issue with ISP(not for public) on Ti frame.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:42 pm 
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anquetil wrote:
Look cool, but IMO ask Mr. Wittson if he sell Ti ISP adapter for saddle. I also have some Issue with ISP(not for public) on Ti frame.


What kind of problems with ISP on Witton? I consider to make order for Suppresio with ISP.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:03 pm 
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@anquetil,

Not sure what you meant, but there isn’t any problem with my ISP..
Aesthetically, I do think a seatmast topper with a 25mm offset looks better than 0mm offset.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:09 pm 
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prendrefeu wrote:
Interior of frame: Frame Saver (or equivalent)
Exterior: clearcoat, wax, or clear powdercoat.

romalor your frame was not protected, sorry man.


not my frame , I saw several frames like that and the builder Victoire Cycles don't offer the colored varnish anymore , solid paints now .
they are professional and use frame saver .
Ask yourself why no one does that raw steel with varnish it will rust , ask any good frame builder if you want .


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:47 pm 
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romalor wrote:
Ask yourself why no one does that raw steel with varnish it will rust , ask any good frame builder if you want .


I wonder how Brompton does their raw lacquered frames. They've been available for years. I have seen a prototype copper plated version but the finish only lasts a few months.


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