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I do not know the Nibby Nic, i think that is heavy.

The Racing Ralph is lighter, i love it very nice tire for race and marathon. It is a very good tire, light and strong.

Thanks!!! I just have to find someone to SHIP to Brazil


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How do you find my Scott ?

"De nada" hehee great.

What do you mean with how do I find your scott?? What I think about the bike? I think It's awsome, a very nice setup no doubt, in not very fond of shimano, but It's a great group anyway, my mtb have this weight, but It's with V's and It's a Specialized M5 S-Works 2006

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Looks pretty good mate!

So you choose to get the full carbon SLR... hmm expensive :D

You got a nice overall bike, upgrades are visually small but hey not all that is good can be seen instantly :wink:



Only 120€ ! Moreover it is new ! :D

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nice bike :) what is the weight of the frame?

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My Pro Racing frame is 1515 g. in size large.

I doubt the 04 model that DrSunn has is lighter. as far as I know only the decals have changed between 03 and 04

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My Pro Racing frame is 1515 g. in size large.

I doubt the 04 model that DrSunn has is lighter. as far as I know only the decals have changed between 03 and 04


1485gr without disc only, and size M.

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Any more upgrades lately ? :lol:


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ok so the medium (without Vmounts) is 30g lighter. not much really.

I am thinking of replacing the dual controls with seperate shifters and other lighter V-Brakes. but I am waiting for the 07 XTR shifters and see how they work and how heavy/light they are.
further more I am planning to get a other lighter cassette. something like a KCNC or something like that.
But it aint going to happen very soon (after the summer I think, unless I find a great offer.)

Reason for that:

because I got a great offer for a Scott usa Expert racing 2003.
I loved the color of the frame from the beginning.
So I bought it, it is in exelent shape, it was owned by a guy who used it a few times but didn't have time for it and he stored in in his garage.
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the only thing I change before the pic where the tyres, I put slicks on it because I used it abit on the road.
Apart from the tyres and the SPD the bike is completely stock.
but it won't stay like that.
I am not going to build it up as a super light bike.
I want to lighter it abit to around 9.5/10 kg. but it has to be strong and stiff.. a good overall bike for XC use
I already got a few parts for it:
Thomson Elite post and stem a Flite saddle and several tyres for dif use and some small p
I think of building it up with:
- XT shifting parts (mechs, shifters, crankset)
- Avid Juicy Ultimates
- Rock Shox Reba WC
- CK headset.

I have no clue what wheels to use (need disc wheels) and some small parts.


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Same bike as I used to own... :o) Frame weight was 1620 for M frame.
But when I changed to NRS the Scott was only 9.850 grams...
SID, F99, SLR and stuff like that.

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My Pro Racing frame is 1515 g. in size large.

I doubt the 04 model that DrSunn has is lighter. as far as I know only the decals have changed between 03 and 04


yours is lighter... my frame scott racing expert 04 weights in size L 1641gramm (with alu cantis)
my dream frame is a black team issue 04 (his weight is 1150gramm in size M)
i have some update pic:
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i love this frame but the team issue is so much lighter :D

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[quote="Dr Sunn"]I do not know the Nibby Nic, i think that is heavy./quote]

I have the Schwalbe Nobby Dick.. ups Nic and the weight is actually quite fine for this tire with great grip in cornering!

Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evolution 2.1" is 482 grams! If the track is a little loose a good combination is NN in the front for good grip and RR in the rear!

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Very nice bike kdanny1.

looks good, a nice clean overall look... but still a real weenie would know it is build with class :thumbup:

I will keep you updated on the Expert racing.
I will strip it down to the bone (frame) and see what it did weight (do it before the strip, the estimate by scott was 12.5 if I am not mistaken. I doubt I will have much trouble loosing weight till I reach a weight of around 10 kg. some parts are really heavy like the useless Judy TT wich is if I am correct 2.3 kg. (I measured one before, on a hanging scale... :p)

btw Thanks Skogling for the frame weight. this frame is a large just like my Pro Racing. I will see what weight it will have.

ooh Skogling can you give me a speclist of your bike back then? so I can see what you had on it.

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I do not know the Nibby Nic, i think that is heavy./quote]

I have the Schwalbe Nobby Dick.. ups Nic and the weight is actually quite fine for this tire with great grip in cornering!

Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evolution 2.1" is 482 grams! If the track is a little loose a good combination is NN in the front for good grip and RR in the rear!



:D Yes ! I agree with you.

And what do you think about Twister Super Sonic and Explorer Super Sonic ?

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kdanny1 wrote:
yours is lighter... my frame Scott racing expert 04 weights in size L 1641gramm (with alu cantis)
my dream frame is a black team issue 04 (his weight is 1150gramm in size M)
i have some update pic:

Please remove image tags in Quotes. Thanks, Frankie


i love this frame but the team issue is so much lighter :D


Get those tires off! You would loose positions in a race because of those :evil: And that's basically the only thing that I'd change on that bike except I'd get some disc brakes.

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thanks sniper!

can you make a pic when you weight your frame? i think the weight is ca. 1550 gramms...is the weight 1515 taken from the scott hp?
(sorry my english is not so good :wink: )
my bike was weight 13,8 kg when i buy it befor 2 years
on this time it weights 6957gramms...

here is the list:

Model: Scott Racing Weight

Bottle Cage: BTP Carbon 6
Bottom Bracket: KCNC Tuned by Max 129
Brake Levers: Kooka Rache Tuned 83
Rear Brakes: Miranda Magnesium with Delta Pads 94
Front Brakes: Miranda Magnesium with Delta Pads 95
Cables: Tune Plastic with Powercordz 56
Cassette: Alu Light 123
Chain: KMC X10 SL 225
Crankset: 0
--Arms: Storck Powerarms 312
--Crank Bolts: KCNC 19
--Ring bolts: Extralite Bolt 10
--Outer Ring: Specialites TA Tuned 55
--Middle Ring: Specialites TA Tuned 36
Derlr (Front) Shimano XTR Tuned 97
Derlr (Rear) Shimano XTR Tuned 194
Fork: Sid SL 04 Tuned by Xtremelight(CarbonTop, mmm-bikes dumper,Ti studs) 993
Frame: Scott Racing Expert L with Alu Cantis 1641
Grips: Foam Ultralight 13
Handlebar: Schmolke TLO 76
Headset: M2 Racer 41
Headset Cap/Bolt: Carbon Ti incl RS Expander 13
Pedals: Exustar Titan E-PM25TI 208
Quick Releases: Heylite Ti 33
Seat Binder: Coparni Carbon 6
Seat: Becker Carbon MTB 62
Seatpost: Aerosports Carbon tuned with Upgradekit 130
Shifters: Sachs Quartz Tuned 116
Stem: Syntace F99 97
Tire (Front) Maxxis Flyweight 330 320
Tire (Rear): Maxxis Flyweight 330 324
Tubes: NoTubes Tubelesskit Nylon + Yellowtape + 60ml + air 101
Wheelset (Front): American Classic with Micro Hub 552
Wheelset (Rear): American Classic 697
Wheelset: 0


TOTALS:

grams:
6957
pounds:
15.34

i will update:

the alu cassette will be chanced to a tune rasselbande.
the rear derlr. will tuned by carbon
the pedals will tuned with alu bolts...
and then i see... how many gramms are possible... :)

@nicolas: the tire is perfectly for this bike...this bike will never race :wink:

greetings :D

looks good, a nice clean overall look... but still a real weenie would know it is build with class :thumbup:

I will keep you updated on the Expert racing.
I will strip it down to the bone (frame) and see what it did weight (do it before the strip, the estimate by scott was 12.5 if I am not mistaken. I doubt I will have much trouble loosing weight till I reach a weight of around 10 kg. some parts are really heavy like the useless Judy TT wich is if I am correct 2.3 kg. (I measured one before, on a hanging scale... :p)

btw Thanks Skogling for the frame weight. this frame is a large just like my Pro Racing. I will see what weight it will have.

ooh Skogling can you give me a speclist of your bike back then? so I can see what you had on it.[/quote]

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I weight the Pro Racing frame on a digital kitchen scale like many other do.
it was 1515 including the steel V-brake bosses. but I removed everything else including all the bolts and even the plastic cable guide on the bottem of the frame (and the bolt with it) so it is the bare frame.

I will weigh my Expert racing any day now, as soon as I know it I will post it also.

I hope to get this one just under the 10 kg. It won't be a superlight project.

Have to say your weight is really impressive :thumbup:

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