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 Post subject: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:13 pm 
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Hi, new to forum so not sure how to do photos (will try again!) or if I'm posting in the right place, be gentle! :D

My bike: 2016 Cannondale Supersix Evo 2 with etap, size 52.
Current weight 6.215kg
Bought as second hand (mint) frame and built up with mix of new and existing parts:

Frame and fork: Supersix Evo 2 High Mod in Acid Red but it looks fluro orange to me!
Wheels: Far Sports 38/50 x25 tubular rims on Bitex ED hubs
FD RD and shifters: SRAM Red eTap
Brakes: SRAM Red
Cassette: SRAM Red 1090 11-25
Bar: Easton EC70 Aero
Bar tape & plugs: Lizard Skin Race
Stem: Kalloy 90mm
Headset: Cannondale
Chainset: Rotor Inpower 3D+
Rings: Praxis 50/34
Seatpost: Cannondale Save Carbon (cut & tuned)
Saddle: Specialized Romin Evo S-Works
Clamp: Cannondale
Pedals: Speedplay SS with Ti axles, bow ties and bolts
Tyres: Vittoria Corsa G+ 25mm
Garmin mount: Fetha
Brake Cables: Jagwire Elite Link (PITA)
Skewers: Carbon Ti
Cages: Elite Carbon
Misc: Ti and alloy bolts, Morgan Blue Race Oil, air!

I think that's it...

Looks pretty good and goes like stink, leg upgrade required :D


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 Post subject: Supersix Evo 2 HM
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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:39 pm 
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Super ride. Mine is non HM, but weighs in at 5.99kg. You likely pay a weight penalty with the cranks.
You listed Sram's 1090 cassette. Isn't that 10sp?
Imagine we can both shed some weight with the stock headset.
And you might get below 6kg with different bars, post, saddle.

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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:53 pm 
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Do you have the images hosted on a 3rd party site already? If so you can just open the full editor and put the image URL inside an [img] tag and you should be golden.

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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
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Image
https://flic.kr/p/YKaqAu
Having issues with the image thing!

Since taking this I've swapped out the skewers and saddle and (of course) cut the steerer.
And the pedals are now black, the two shades of red didn't work plus they stain easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:29 am 
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Asteroid wrote:
Super ride. Mine is non HM, but weighs in at 5.99kg. You likely pay a weight penalty with the cranks.
You listed Sram's 1090 cassette. Isn't that 10sp?
Imagine we can both shed some weight with the stock headset.
And you might get below 6kg with different bars, post, saddle.


Thanks!
You're right about the cassette, was working from memory not my spreadsheet!
The cranks are relatively heavy and probably not what I would have done if starting from scratch but I already had them from when I was planning a Cervelo, so changing would have been expensive. And the PM is very reliable.
I think about 50g from the bars and lighter tubs would be one way to get sub-6kg relatively cheaply but I like the bars :oops: and light tubs are fragile I've found.
Headset wise I'm using the 5mm Supersix top cap and a 10mm carbon spacer under the stem, the stock expander and standard bearings. Is there much to lose from this?
Climbing wheels are an option :D but at the moment I'm thinking more about some clinchers for reliability as the weather worsens. Always interested in ideas though!


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:57 am 
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I'd try to flip the Rotor for an SiSL2 and add a Watteam powerbeat. There's some decent weight savings to be had there imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:19 am 
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If your top cap and expander is anything like the stock one on my non-HM, the thing weighs some serious grams. My swap out saved 50g.

Not sure about the weight of your wheelset. My Bora Ultra 35 tubs tip the scales around 1100 or so. The affixed Veloflex Criteriums run 260g each. (Already wore out a pair of super light Veloflex Records.)

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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:46 am 
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Nixster wrote:
Having issues with the image thing!
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Try Tapatalk

I was having real difficulties until a site member suggested Tapatalk...easy as


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:50 am 
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Jagwire Elite Link...PITA...but how good do the brakes feel now! Love mine.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:58 am 
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I've just bought secondhand supersix, because the varnish on it is a little bit used (few deeper scratches), I think chainging the paint. Maybe the fluo orange won't be my choice, but thank you for inspiration :) Amazing bike!


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:10 am 
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Squashednuts wrote:
Nixster wrote:
Having issues with the image thing!
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Try Tapatalk

I was having real difficulties until a site member suggested Tapatalk...easy as
Yep, agree with tapatalk. So easy, take a pic with your mobile and attach.
Would like to see the bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:14 am 
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You can upload all pics to Flickr which is super easy. When you open a pic on Flickr you will find a share button where you can even select which size it should have when creating the BB code...

Looking forward to your pics!

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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
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ddsg wrote:
I'd try to flip the Rotor for an SiSL2 and add a Watteam powerbeat. There's some decent weight savings to be had there imo.

You're right of course, my Rotor set up weighs 725g while a SISL2 plus say Stages or 4iiiii would be around 500g I guess? So conservatively 200g saving. BUT I'd get about £400 for my Rotor second hand and the Dale option costs £750 for the cranks and another £400 for the PM. So I'm looking at £750 for 200g and I have 3 kids who need to be fed. Like, every day! :roll: Would look great though.
If I didn't have the Rotor already I would do as you suggest.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
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kidrob wrote:
You can upload all pics to Flickr which is super easy. When you open a pic on Flickr you will find a share button where you can even select which size it should have when creating the BB code...

Looking forward to your pics!

Image

See if this works, didn't get the buttons in Flickr on my iPad so trying Tapatalk.

Thanks for the help guys!



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 Post subject: Re: Supersix Evo 2 HM
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:27 pm 
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Asteroid wrote:
If your top cap and expander is anything like the stock one on my non-HM, the thing weighs some serious grams. My swap out saved 50g.

Not sure about the weight of your wheelset. My Bora Ultra 35 tubs tip the scales around 1100 or so. The affixed Veloflex Criteriums run 260g each. (Already wore out a pair of super light Veloflex Records.)

Wheels are 1275g. Swapping out the rear to match the front is probably worth about 50g. No illusions here, I wasn't getting Bora quality wheels for my £500!
Tubs are currently Vittoria Corsa G+ 25mm which vary but average about 290g, although the rear has two shots of Cafe Lattex Espresso in it which isn't helping. I have tried a Corsa Speed G+ 23mm at 195g on the front but that didn't survive its first UK pothole. Going to try again with a standard Corsa G+ 23mm on the front which will save 25-30g and swap out front to rear to get rid of the sealant for, guessing, 30g saved. So maybe 50-60g there.

Do you have a breakdown on how you got the headset saving? Just wondering if there are some cheap grammes there



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