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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:58 pm 
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hey everyone,

i recently picked up a Lapierre Xelius SL 500. the frame supposedly weighs 850 and the fork 350, but i have read on here and elsewhere that that is a bit of wishful thinking... either way, i like the look of the bike, the geometry is right, and it has good reviews so i decided to just go for it, even if it is not true "weight weenie." we will see what i can do.

as pictured it weighs 8.39kg, without bartape, pedals or bottle cages.

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i want to try and get it to 6.5kg... i will use some parts i have laying around and probably splash out for a few new things... unfortunately the frame and fork are pretty beefy to start with, but, so it goes.

weights and pictures to follow.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:58 pm 
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reserved for original build weights and photos. sorry some of them suck, but, hey.
**as you can see the claimed frame weight is WAY off.... :shock:

1.22kg frame with all hardware and shimano pressfit bb

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fork 326.5 (update weight without plug)

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lapierre seatpost 335.8

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lapierre stem 157.7

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lapierre handlebar 281

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frame bb cable guide 18.6 (not included in above frame weight)

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mavic front qr 60.2

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mavic rear qr 64.2

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105 5800 11-28 cassette 272.2

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brake housing 71.4

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derailleur housing 52

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105 5800 right lever w cables 270.5

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105 5800 left lever w cables 272.8

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105 5800 front mech 88.7

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105 5800 rear mech 245.5

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top headset bearing 22.8

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bottom headset bearing 26.4

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headset spacers 20

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headset wedge thing 3.9

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fsa conical headset spacer 18.8

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105 5800 front direct mount brake 173.7

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105 5800 rear brake 192.5

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shimano rs500 52/36 172.5 crank 834.1

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top cap expander plug 44.5

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selle italia x1 saddle 291.9

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shimano hg601 chain 245

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mavic aksium front wheel w conti ultra sport 25mm and tube 1.3kg

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mavic aksium rear wheel w conti ultra sport 25mm and tube 1.46kg

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:59 pm 
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reserved for custom build photos and weights.

** a few things have arrived! why is the SRAM GXP press fit so heavy? (update 21 august 2017)

frame (again) with all hardware and no bb 1,140g

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fork (no plug) 326.5



gelu 27.2 x 400 seatpost 0 setback 138.8g

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ee expander and top cap 9.7g

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ee brake rear 86.3g

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ee brake front direct mount 79.3g

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kalloy uno 120mm ti bolts 108.2g

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sram gxp pressfit 86 89.5

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swiss stop bxp brake pads (4) 20.6g

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SRAM red quarq dzero 110 bcd 172.5 cranks 548.9g

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sram red 50t ring 126.3g

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sram red 34t ring 28.6g

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:07 pm 
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ok so everything is stripped down, except the bottom bracket. i will probably have my LBS do that because i don't like pounding on my frame. but, as you can see, the frame and fork are HEAVY, but i have a lot of room to chop some weight considering how much some of those components weighed... a few questions:

does anyone know which headset bearings i could use that would be lighter? the original is: FSA 1 1/8" - 1 1/4" FSA Orbit C-33 44E

what headset spacer could i use over the top headset bearing and wedge thing to shave a bit more?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:53 pm 
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Interesting. Out of interest what size frame is that? 55?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:41 pm 
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yep, size 55 / L.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:15 pm 
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Thanks. Out of interest, how tall are you, and your inseam measurement?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:50 pm 
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height 183cm

cyclist inseam 88cm


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:54 pm 
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Thanks, keep us updated.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:18 pm 
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so i am slowly getting stuff in. i got the quarq and chainrings. eebrakes and pads. seatpost. stem. eenut expander and cap. the rest ( sram red 22 groupset, wheels, saddle, handlebar) i will probably just swap over from another bike.

i do, however, think i will do a thread together wheels mfg angular contact bb. the sram gxp pressfit already weighs 90g and an extra 30g for the wheels mfg seems a place where the extra weight would be worth it...

hopefully i can start building soon!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:41 am 
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I can't get over how massively heavy the 105 components seem to me, specially compared to Sram Red. Sure there's a huge difference in price, too, but the levers are almost twice as heavy, there's a FULL 100g difference in the rear derailer, and a further 100g difference in the brake calipers...

Just replacing the groupset you're gonna be saving a huge chunk of weight. With a lightish set of wheels and some of the kickass stuff you already have like that 130g seatpost (that will be less than 110 when you cut it, since there's no way you're gonna be needing a full 40cm of post with that frame...) you should be coming in under 6.5 no problem...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:40 pm 
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Kaboom wrote:
I can't get over how massively heavy the 105 components seem to me, specially compared to Sram Red. Sure there's a huge difference in price, too, but the levers are almost twice as heavy, there's a FULL 100g difference in the rear derailer, and a further 100g difference in the brake calipers...

Just replacing the groupset you're gonna be saving a huge chunk of weight. With a lightish set of wheels and some of the kickass stuff you already have like that 130g seatpost (that will be less than 110 when you cut it, since there's no way you're gonna be needing a full 40cm of post with that frame...) you should be coming in under 6.5 no problem...



yeah the 105 stuff is HEAVY. even just looking at it you can see the materials and finish are not as 'high end', which is not to say it is bad stuff-- it shifts well and lasts forever -- just clearly not made of light stuff.

my wheels are pretty sweet, a handmade affair from Fair Wheel Bikes: carbon ti hubs laced to ryde pulse sprint rims (sapim cx ray on the front, sapim sprint on the rear for stiffness). a pair of alloy clinchers that come out to 1270 grams for the set! i will get photos up once i officially start the build.

waiting on a bottom bracket....


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:35 pm 
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so, everything is built up! here is the build list:

55cm (L) 2017 Lapierre Xelius SL 500 frameset
Kalloy Uno 120mm stem (ti bolts)
Gelu 410mm 27.2 0 setback carbon seatpost
SQ Lab 612 14cm carbon rail saddle
40cm Easton EC90 SLX3 handlebar
Zipp Service Course handlebar tape
K-Edge Garmin mount XL
SRAM Red 22 shifters
SRAM Red 22 Rear derailleur
SRAM Red Yaw Front Derailleur w chain keeper
Campagnolo Record Chain
SRAM XG1190 11-25 Cassette
SRAM Red Quarq DZero GXP crankset 172.5mm 50/34
Wheels MFG Thread Together ABEC 5 angular contact GXP BB86
EEBrakes (regular mount rear, direct mount front)
4x Swiss Stop BXP flash pro brake pads
2x Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
4x titanium water bottle cage bolts
Time Xpresso 12 pedals
Carbon TI X-Lock Special Aluminum axle Quick release skewers
SRAM Slickwire cables and housing
Jagwire inline barrel adjuster
Garmin hub-mount speed sensor

Wheelset: Ryde Pulse Sprint Rims laced to Carbon TI X HUB SL, 20 x Sapim CX ray spokes front, 24x Sapim CX Sprint spokes rear

2x Continental GP4000s II tires 700x25mm
Inner tubes.... ? can't remember which are in there, but nothing fancy light

total weight: 6.57
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things left to do:

1.) trim seatpost (should be able to whack an easy 12 cm -- save maybe 25 grams?)
2.) install EEnut and top cap, save 30 grams
3.) install at least Conti Light inner tubes, maybe latex-- save between 40 and 100 grams.
4.) replace headset spacers with something lighter - save 10 grams
5.) replace headset bearings - save 20 grams...

savings left to have: 95-155 grams

and that would put me under the hoped for 6.5kg mark! not bad for such a fat frame.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:11 pm 
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Oooow, congrats on the finished build.

I used to ride a Xelius SL 600 FDJ over an extended period of time and the ride quality is superb. Very, very comfy like a magic carpet and super responsive to steering input. Pedalling responsiveness is good but not electrical like some super climbers out there. Its comfort was disconcerting during the first 100-200 km's as I always wondered if the rear tyre punctured. Turned out the frame was just that smooth.

Your frame weight is inline with the other member who weighed an XL frame with fluo yellow paint in this forum and also inline with TOUR magazine's weight. And definitely not inline with what Lapierre claims. lol

Curious to know how the direct-mount eeBrakes perform though. If you could, please report back on that.


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Compliments for the effort and final result! :thumbup:

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