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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:53 pm 
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Yeah, other than having to clean it after every ride, I'm growing rather fond of it. A small change in reach made a big difference in its descending mannerism which was my primary contention with it. Part of that problem was caused by the short reach on the SRAM eTap shifters, which resulted in about 15mm more reach in the drop than my Campy equipped Litespeed. Reach on the hoods with DA is about the same as Campy so it's all good now.


You switched back to -17° stem? (but in 120 instead of 130 I presume...) Intresting thing about the shorter stem vs better handling. I'm tempted to go the other way on the Canyon, and see if the light instability in (even slight) crosswinds is still there or not with the longer stem. And 130mm instead of 120mm would also compensate for the 1cm less reach of the frame compared to the Addict.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:05 am 
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I increased the reach on the Litespeed (saddle setback was further forward than I thought it was) so I'm trying to see if I can get my balance over the bike correct with a 130. It seems to be a balance thing that affects the handling. I like the extra reach on the hoods, but we'll have to see if I can get the weight forward properly after a couple weeks of adjusting. Otherwise I'll go back to a -17 120mm stem (and save 11g to boot).

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:39 am 
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Well, this is happening:

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Weight all in with pedals (146g):

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:02 am 
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Proper bike porn....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:40 pm 
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I contemplated the same, b/c there are a couple of inexpensive ones out there now, but didn't want to give up the spiderings. What was the total weight gain, if you have the info handy?
I'm on stages now, and happy enough with it, but still am nagged by the possible switch.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:44 pm 
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OPI SpiderRing is 171g for mid compact. I went down to 50/34 since that's all I had in regular chainrings. Weight of SRM (126g) plus Force Chainrings (120g) and Bolts (10g) was 256g, so a gain of about 85g.

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:53 pm 
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How do you like the Mavics CCU Ryan? comparable to your Bora? Rolling speed?

Saw a few selling on Ebay and want to pick up a pair. Never been a big fan of Mavic wheels but the new CCU looks pretty sick.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:23 am 
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They're very interesting wheels. They're firm but really smooth so there's no harshness to them given the amount of firmness they have. I've also grown soft and 23mm tires I'm not used to. I unintentionally ended up lifting my rear end a lot today to avoid road bumps/rough tarmac so near the end of my ride my lower back was killing me. I nearly needed to stop riding at mile 70ish. Hopefully tomorrow I'll keep my ass firmly planted on the saddle and all will be good. The one thing that makes these really special though is how they feel when you're tossing the bike around. I've never quite felt a wheelset like this. I put the Enve 4.5 back on today to do some sprints to make sure it wasn't in my head, but it's not. They have this lateral stiffness to them that is unparalleled. I find that wheels really separate themselves when you're on the rivet throwing the bike around. Not because you're putting out a lot of watts, but because your form is usually pretty bad and you're putting abnormal forces on the bike. These set the bar for stiffness in that regard.

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:13 pm 
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Darn, just pulled the trigger on a C40, see this beauty is back on ebay again.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:40 pm 
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Darn, just pulled the trigger on a C40, see this beauty is back on ebay again.
Say it ain't so

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:01 pm 
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Yeah, I'm contemplating selling it again. I'm coming to the conclusion that I prefer the titanium ride characteristics for all around riding. There was an interview with Tom Ritchey about how frames have become stiffer and stiffer which is pushing the trend of wide tires and skinny seatposts to offset that. That really rang true to me. My Litespeed is in the stiff enough category; however, when I'd spend a week on the Crumpton I ended up liking the Litespeed less since I perceived it as less stiff. Ride the Litespeed for a few days to adjust again and then I forget about it not being as stiff as a carbon bike and appreciate the comfort it provides on broken pavement. That comfort is a big thing for me. The Crumpton does it better than all of my other carbon bikes but it's still not up to snuff with the Litespeed.

If I look at one of my Saturday loops, it can encompass the entire range of what you'd need from a bike. The first 15 miles are on Wilshire Blvd which is constantly being ripped up so the pavement is absolute crap. I jump onto the NOW group ride where we usually putt along at around 27-33 mph in a paceline for about 30-40 minutes before we hit the rollers. The rollers is where shit gets real. Average speed is about 28 mph for about 20 minutes. Multiple 400-500w 1-2 minute efforts then you come down to the end where it's a single file pace line for a sprint. Once you get done with all of that, people go their own ways or regroup and head back. If I have time, we'll do Encinal to Piuma to Schueren to Stunt then down Fernwood and back. Lots of technical descending and overall just a long, hard day in the saddle.

In a ride like that, the hardest things for a Ti bike to do are the full gas, sharp efforts, but never once do I notice the Litespeed. It disappears under me and I just ride...and I think I feel fresher at the end, or at least a little less achy.

I've been here before and I'll probably be here again, but at the moment I'm trying to be a little more pragmatic and come to terms that the Litespeed is my one bike I need and I'll enjoy it more if I'm not riding on two different personalities.

Here's the Strava leaderboard for the segment mentioned above :lol:

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:34 am 
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A) one bike? WTF....?

B) I knew you'd find a way to work that segment in here. Well done (and well done....I'm jealous....)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:06 am 
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SLCBrandon wrote:
A) one bike? WTF....?

B) I knew you'd find a way to work that segment in here. Well done (and well done....I'm jealous....)


Mr 5 bikes, I think you mean "LOL" cause we know that is unlikely.

On the other hand, my kit for my bikes has changed over time. Look at the Crumpton, I would never have imagined that I'd be running 9100 brakes, but man, do I like them. For the most part, everything on the Crumpton is tried and true. I've kind of grown out of the shoot for the lightest build possible for a given frame and focused more on handling and zero compromise parts. I feel old now. A has been WW. All that being said to support the idea that for road duties, a 6.3kg Litespeed should suffice. Now, Para-road duties...

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Current Stable. The Snob Machine | The Crumpton
The Ex's. LS Siena: 6.21kg | Parlee Z5 SLi: 5.9kg | LS Xicon: 5.76kg | C59: 5.7kg | Cervelo R5ca: 5.09kg | Fuji Altamira SE - 6.2kg | Scott Foil - 6.2kg | Evo - 5.18kg | LS Classic - 6.7kg


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:19 am 
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Cant just have one bike... Always have to have a spare lol.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:25 am 
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Nah, I've been on one bike since the C59. Zero regrets.

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