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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:00 pm 
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If no one going to say anything about the seatpost, then I certainly won't.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:35 am 
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Great paint. Stunning. The geometry is an acquired taste, unlikely to be universally loved due to the short seat post.

Aggressively short cable routing at the front.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:22 pm 
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Beautiful paint, but I was thinking the same thing as @ghisallo2003 about the cable routing. Is there even enough length that would allow the bars to turn their fullest (touch the top tube) without ripping out the cables. Small bikes can be a challenge for mechanical cable routing. If clearance permits I would route the cables so that the cross underneath the downtube. This would also avoid the housing rub on the headtube and provide more relaxed cable bends.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:29 pm 
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Beautiful paint, but I was thinking the same thing as @ghisallo2003 about the cable routing. Is there even enough length that would allow the bars to turn their fullest (touch the top tube) without ripping out the cables. Small bikes can be a challenge for mechanical cable routing. If clearance permits I would route the cables so that the cross underneath the downtube. This would also avoid the housing rub on the headtube and provide more relaxed cable bends.


A good point but with the cable stops at the very sides of the downtube, my guess is that the cables would contact the downtube if they were crossed underneath it. It's a common problem with this type of design, my Colnago EP suffers the same issue. I haven't tried crossing yet but eyeballing it tells me it won't clear. What I find even more remarkable is the number of builds where crossing underneath or internally is possible and yet the bikes are still built up with unnecessary cable bends and cable-headtube contact.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:16 pm 
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Yes, Mr. Gib... I looked at that too, and from the side looking at the derailleur stops I would agree that it's not possible. But it also depends on both the curvature of the tube and where exactly they end up crossing so, although I suspect you're right that it wouldn't work, it'd be worth a shot. The pic below is what got me to thinking that if the crossing point, which is well below the half way point of the downtube is below the plane of the downtube then it could work. You don't need much clearance, even a millimeter will do... a side on shot of the downtube and cables at that point and you'd be able to tell for sure.
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Also agree that on modern bikes where the cables enter the upper half of the downtube (which is massive these days) there is no real reason not to cross them internally as it provides for a much more relaxed cable housing curvature which helps shifting. Wherever possible I will choose this type of routing. It seems to have been often forgotten about these days, but really should be resurrected again in light of fat tubes, internal routing and entry points of cables. And you're mostl likely right about your EP not being able to use this routing either. It's similar to my C50, not possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:42 pm 
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Saw this on IG.. and didnt realize you were on here as well. Full size photos on the laptop sure make it that much better! Gorgeous.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:14 am 
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Tried out some Bora Tubulars today. I wasn't convinced by 50mm wheels on thin steel tubing, but this may have just changed my mind!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:30 pm 
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Removing the rubber ring from around the seatpost would give the illusion that the seatpost is longer.

It really needs a negative 17 stem, I personally cant stand level top tubes without a level stem.

Love the super tidy cables.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:53 am 
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Clearly a lot of thought went into this build. I like it. :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 pm 
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this ciavete is mind-blowing..


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:41 am 
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Very nicely done!
As for the stem, I think a -12 deg (aka Extralite Hyperstem) will look great on this bike.
Looks aside, if you're comfortable with the current fit, all is good!

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