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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:45 pm 
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80-100g of paint is about right for a light color (on half the frame).

You must have one of the first available frames in your market, last I checked they were still back ordered.


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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:57 pm 
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Very cool, looking forward to seeing what you do with it, and the final weight


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:51 am 
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Cheers, hoping some more parts somehow up some day soon.

I have to strip the paint of the forks and brakes, because the frame is internal brake routing striping the brakes down gives me the chance to rebuild them anyway. One more race next Wednesday and I can strip the old bike down then progress will happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:04 am 
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Sorry for lack of updates, been stupidly busy lately, here is one anyway!

Im going to use the headset that came with the frameset, its all made specifically for it and has suuuuper low stack which is great for me! i run a long and low setup so the lower the better! Weight of headset below

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Ill use my Tune Gum Gum expander, if you dont have one and are looking for an opinion, ive never had a problem and you really cant argue with the weight

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I am a massive fan of Thomson Components, they look fantastic, ive never broken one of their bits, and they are maintenance free. also weight to price ratio is really good. The Stem is a 130mm -17, i want to go to a 140mm and lower but no company produces what i want. The stem i ride is stock apart from Titanium bolts which saved 6gm.

Stock Thomson X2 Bolts

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Titanium Bolts (these are also a 4mm hex head instead of a 3mm so i can torque them a little safer)

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And total stem weight, i really like the stiffness of the Thomson Stems too

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:11 am 
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Thomson Seatpost is an Elite (not masterpeice), has a handmade carbon cradle i made a few years ago, J&L Alloy Yokes and Titanium Bolts, also had 75mm cut off the bottom. the cut offf the bottom was 43gm.

Stock (but cut) seatpost, add another 43gm = 290gm

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The tuned seatpost which ended up being 89gm lighter than stock. i didnt buy a masterpeice because of the price, the elite really isnt that much heavier.

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Note: When the funds allow ill be buying a combo off Berk. Thatll shave a significant amount of weight!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:32 am 
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The stock fork was already significantly cut down for the stack height on the old bike and this new frame is already 6mm lower 8)

I needed to strip the old paint off the old fork because it had red on it. The new frame would clash horrendously with this. Ive stripped a whole bunch of frames before so nothing new. typical fork savings are around 20gm in paint alone, not to mention itll get cut even shorter in its final iteration.

Fork with its paint

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Fork without its paint

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i added a layer of gloss clear after this which only added 3gm, cut the steerer again saved 3gm.

Had a delivery too, Carbon XX brake clamps, these are fantasticly cool. also came with a small bag of Haribo Gummie Bears :beerchug: saved 16gm from stock clamps.

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Ive mentioned i use XX1 Cranks before, this is for the direct mount rings and their easy changing and stiff build. Cheap to buy too with lots of sizes available. I use a Stages Power Meter as well, and below ill show you the weight penalty of the power meter.

Stock crankset no chain ring

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Left hand stock arm

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Stages arm, note the weight penalty is only 24gm. ill sacrifice 24gm any day for the info it gives me.

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Ill do a complete weight of the cranks when ive stripped the paint off the drive arm. I wont strip the power meter as itll no doubt void warranty, and im not willing to do that, i will however cover it with custom black XX1 stickers later down the track.

The gear ratio i use most is 36 / 12. Its a gear for flat to very short small climbs. Anything i know is steep or long it gets changed out to a lower gear. 36 / 12 lets me attack the front top riders here and sometimes ride away.

Pictured is an Absolute Black DM Round ring. Ive contacted a local company who produce high end chain rings to ask about a series of custom rings just for me as well, so hopefully in the near future ill have something different. Regardless the Absolute Black is respectably light for a 36T.

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Forgot to post with the other post, i run a old Selle Italia SLR saddle. This one is Ti Rails, i broke a carbon rail one before and care to not relive that. This saddle will be retired with the Berk Combo ill eventually order. Funny how Selle Italia Print a weight on the saddle leather which isnt even close to the actual weight.

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Thats all the updates i have till my other bits arrive, feel free to ask some questions or offer suggestions :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:25 am 
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Sorry for the shite lack of updates, work has been insane lately. long story short, bike is built, been ridden once so far, and the bike seems to perform well above my expectations. Anyway heres some more parts for you all,

Ordered 650mm Hyperbar from extralite, these things are bloody cool, great weight, but upon riding them they are not hugely stiff. Considering other options at the moment

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Extralite Top cap and alloy bolt. Again a really nice product, i brought the cap for the cool factor mainly, and i find you need to tension the headset up with a big beefy cap and then replace one the stems snug. Otherwise i love it.

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Hypergrips top off my order, genuinely my favorite grips ever, and i was a big fan of ESI

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Driveline stuff, Ultegra chain, shortened up quite a bit. I use them because they are cheap, the weight is "good" but ultimately they are strong, ive never broken one. I dont use the shimano connecting pins either, they suck.

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Surly cog, 13T, yeah its not fantastically lifght, but i havent had to replace them monthly in winter like i did with the Shimano DX cogs.

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Braking is taken care of by XX Avids. These brakes get a bad wrap, but i got a good set apparently.I like how they work, seem to give me ZERO issues and are plenty strong. These will at some point (probably failure) get replaced with XTR or Piccolo.

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Rotors are AVID HSX 160mm front and rear. Replaced soon with Ashima rotors (they just havent arrived yet).

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Also a complete crankset shot for you guys. Stages Power meter, and chain ring included

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:31 am 
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Also new wheels to replace my ZTR Crests showed up. Yup, they are china wheels. Thats what i could affford so thats what i brought. Initial impressions are exceptionally good. They came out of the box true, no hop, tight and really quite light. They tubelessed up instantly, and beaded perfect with no drop in pressure over night.

Whipped up some SS spacers, good weight saving over the Surly spacers.

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Rear wheel weight

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So 1294gm wheels all up, which included Stans tape and Specialized tubeless valves. Time will tell if they ride any good.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:59 am 
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Nice thread so far, looking forward to seeing the complete build.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:32 am 
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burglarboycie wrote:
Nice thread so far, looking forward to seeing the complete build.



Getting good camera out this week. Stay tuned :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:17 pm 
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Loving this thread, thank you Sir!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:37 am 
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Shameless Instagram plug, have a look to see a sneaky built picture of the bike

https://instagram.com/p/BVtRFFjgYn4/

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:33 pm 
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You could save a good 40-50 by using a Kalloy Uno stem. As for a post an MCFK would net ~50g and not restrict you to having to use a combo. Formula R1 Racing (which I have had great luck with ) and some Ashima or Formula rotors could also knock quite a bit off.

As for bars give Mt. Zoom a try. I found great reviews on MTBR, but was still a bit sketched, however, they came in on weight target and stiffer/thicker on the ends than MCFK and other brands. 2 or 3 friends have bought them and all loved them as well.

Pretty cool build though- SS MTB is pretty fun.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:01 pm 
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I'll second the Kalloy stem. I use both kalloy and Thomson and can't really tell a difference in stiffness.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:18 pm 
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Kalloy as well on my 29er and zero issues. I will never spend crazy money on a stem again.

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