Becoming an Old Man : Evo sub 6kg build

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prebsy
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by prebsy

EDIT: BUILD AS OF APRIL 6 2017
6.2KG
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Frame.............cannondale evo hi-mod...............805
Fork................evo hi-mod................................319
Headset...........cannondale si + carbon spacers....82
Stem...............uno7 painted.............................116
Handlebar.........fsa gossamer.............................300
Seatpost..........hylix trimmed............................120
Saddle.............s-works power............................159
Tape................n/a............................................0
BB...................bb30 + shields............................50
Crankset..........red exogram................................358
Chain Rings......Sram + rotor bolts........................170
Shifters............red22..........................................282
Fd...................force............................................88
Rd..................force + red wheels..........................165
Shift Cables.....jagwire...........................................24
Shift Housing...jagwire...........................................39
Brake Cables....jagwire...........................................24
Brake Housing..jagwire...........................................39
Brakes............force...............................................286
Wheelset.........BHS/PT/Stan's tape..........................1,600
Tires...............diamante III pro light........................330
Tubes..............forte light + latex.............................147
Chain..............YBN Gold.........................................230
Cassette..........dura ace..........................................169
Pedals.............speedplay.........................................223
Bottle Cages....Fairwheel v2......................................26
Cage Bolts.......alloy.................................................2
Garmin Mount..garmin quarter turn............................6
Qr..................BHS Ti...............................................46
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I finished building my race bike for the season only to discover there's more to life than amateur bike racing. Well My slammed BMC TMR02 is great for racing but it's not much fun for riding all day. So I'm keeping my TMR and building up an Evo on the side. I'm aiming for sub 6kg but with an alloy bar and a set of alloy clinchers with a powertap.


Second hand frame looks like it was never ridden.
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The BB is a bit confusing, seller told me pf30, frame says bb30 but has what appear to be reusable alloy pf30 cups installed...anyone know if I can just knock these out an put in a normal pf30?
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by burglarboycie

I'm a huge fan of these frames so I'll be watching with interest.

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by Alpine318is

I just built up the same frame. You can 100% knock out that cup and put a standard PF30 bottom bracket.
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KWalker
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by KWalker

Had that same frame a few years back and loved it.

I'm building up my old man bike and see no reason why carbon rims and carbon bars can't be used for a daily driver. If anything the minimal compliance is even nicer.
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prebsy
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by prebsy

Well the goal is sub 6kg and there were better g/$ decisions to get there. Also the bar choice speaks for itself...

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numberSix
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by numberSix

No need to remove the bb cups, just get some 6806 angular contact bearings from Wheels Mfg.

For quiet BB30, I use a mix of waterproof bearing grease and microballoons as a thickening agent, between the spindle and the inner races. And just grease between the bearings and cups.

This is a great frame, enjoy it

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by sk1324

prebsy wrote:The BB is a bit confusing, seller told me pf30, frame says bb30 but has what appear to be reusable alloy pf30 cups installed...anyone know if I can just knock these out an put in a normal pf30?


None of the recent Supersix frames are BB30. They are all PF30, or PF30a. Despite what the frame says - so very straightforward of Cannondale. So yes, knock it out.

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by KWalker

Got my 3T Rotundo LTD off eBay for $100, 180g on the dot on the scale. Just gotta wait!
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by beeatnik

sk1324 wrote:
prebsy wrote:The BB is a bit confusing, seller told me pf30, frame says bb30 but has what appear to be reusable alloy pf30 cups installed...anyone know if I can just knock these out an put in a normal pf30?


None of the recent Supersix frames are BB30. They are all PF30, or PF30a. Despite what the frame says - so very straightforward of Cannondale. So yes, knock it out.


I think Cannondale is marketing the cranks or the "standard." So, while all EVOs are PF30(a) and all CAAD10/12s are BB30(a), the cranks are (Hollowgrams) are BB30 (or BB30a). Same crank and spindle regardless of where the BB30 bearings sit.

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by glepore

numberSix wrote:No need to remove the bb cups, just get some 6806 angular contact bearings from Wheels Mfg.

For quiet BB30, I use a mix of waterproof bearing grease and microballoons as a thickening agent, between the spindle and the inner races. And just grease between the bearings and cups.

This is a great frame, enjoy it

This. They require a high preload, but are really nice. As in "I prefer them to ceramic" nice. I used a new set of wheels cups, but you can use the alloy cups in place. I'd add a bit of loctite to be sure.
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prebsy
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by prebsy

KWalker wrote:Got my 3T Rotundo LTD off eBay for $100, 180g on the dot on the scale. Just gotta wait!


I've yet to own a traditional bend bar in carbon that doesn't feel like a noodle. For some reason I have never had the same problem with "ergo" bends or whatever that crap is called :lol: . For reference I've had the rotundo LTD in a 40cm and a zipp slv2 TB in a 38cm and have been really disappionting. For me it's paramount that this bike rides like a dream even if it means a slight weight penalty.

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by KWalker

Weird- I had them measured in a deflection jig and the results were in line with FWB's stiffer bars.
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by Calnago

On my C59 I started with the Rotundo Ltd and the 3T Team stem. Didn't like the flex. Swapped for the Deda Zero 100 Shallows (alloy) and the Deda Zero100 stem and things were much much better. Also, while the side profile of the two bars are very similar, the transition curve from the tops to the levers starts sooner on the Dedas than the 3T's and I personally find it much nicer as it provides just that little bit more clearance for you wrists when you're in the drops, sprinting for example. By far and away my favorite bars.

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by KWalker

I and the mechanics of the test jig must not be a watt monster then. Not to sidetrack the thread, but the data just isn't there to support the flex argument. If only the Campione were around and lighter....
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by superdx

This generation of SS EVO is PF30, not BB30.

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