Ryan's Aero Acceptance: Scott Foil Team 2016
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Bike looks great! Go get some miles on it
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I've being following all your bike builds and I've got to say, I always thought your fit for the bikes looked kinda weird, but this one seems spot on. Does this Foil fits you more confortably Ryan? Or is just like the others?
@Juanmoretime, I'll get that up later tonight.
@mariovalentim, the three bikes I have right now (the Fuji, the Cervelo and this) are all setup nearly the same regarding saddle to bar (51cm), setback (3cm to 3.5cm) and height (66.5cm from center of bb to top of saddle nose). Drop varies between the three. The Cervelo has 8cm of drop, Fuji has 7cm and the Foil has 6.5cm (although position on the hoods is the same between the Fuji and Foil).
I think the Foil "looks proper" because of the steep STA of 74* and 5mm setback post which gives the illusion of a setback but isn't really. The Fuji has a 74.5* STA and I can run a zero setback while the Cervelo is a wild 69* and makes the saddle seatpost relationship look odd. I think the Cervelo is the most comfortable but that's probably because of little things like hood angle and tilt, as well as bar composition. My impression of the Foil will be unfair to the Cervelo since it's only had cushy 27mm tubs on it. The Fuji was fine with those until I put the RZRs on and pumped the tires up to 100 psi. Once I did that, it beat the piss out of me. I have a strange lump on my forearm to prove it.
@mariovalentim, the three bikes I have right now (the Fuji, the Cervelo and this) are all setup nearly the same regarding saddle to bar (51cm), setback (3cm to 3.5cm) and height (66.5cm from center of bb to top of saddle nose). Drop varies between the three. The Cervelo has 8cm of drop, Fuji has 7cm and the Foil has 6.5cm (although position on the hoods is the same between the Fuji and Foil).
I think the Foil "looks proper" because of the steep STA of 74* and 5mm setback post which gives the illusion of a setback but isn't really. The Fuji has a 74.5* STA and I can run a zero setback while the Cervelo is a wild 69* and makes the saddle seatpost relationship look odd. I think the Cervelo is the most comfortable but that's probably because of little things like hood angle and tilt, as well as bar composition. My impression of the Foil will be unfair to the Cervelo since it's only had cushy 27mm tubs on it. The Fuji was fine with those until I put the RZRs on and pumped the tires up to 100 psi. Once I did that, it beat the piss out of me. I have a strange lump on my forearm to prove it.
Here's the build list. I'm scratching my head as to where I have 124g unaccounted for:
Frameset
Scott Foil Team 52cm Frame w/ SRAM BB & Hangers 1065
Fork 311
Syncros Handlebar Combo 395
Seatpost 192
Seatpost Binder 20
Seatpost Cover & BB Bottom Cover 8
Headset 63
Cable Hardware 8
Wheelset
SRAM Red 11-25 Cassette 155
Reynolds RZR 968
Tune TT MTB 24
Extralite Top Cap 3
Veloflex Carbon 23 534
Vittoria Mastik 27
Shift & Brake Group
SRAM Red eTAP FD 160
SRAM Red eTAP RD 238
SRAM Red eTAP Shifters 266
SRAM Red GXP Quarq 760
SRAM Red Chain 11s 230
Brake Cables (iLinks) 45
eeBrakes 170
Reynolds Pads 30
Other Components
Speedplay Ti Zero 172
Berk Saddle 94
Arundel Mandibles 56
Bottle Cage Bolts 2.8
Deda Bar Tape 25
Garmin Mount 37
Misc Unknown 124
Total Weight 6182.8
Frameset
Scott Foil Team 52cm Frame w/ SRAM BB & Hangers 1065
Fork 311
Syncros Handlebar Combo 395
Seatpost 192
Seatpost Binder 20
Seatpost Cover & BB Bottom Cover 8
Headset 63
Cable Hardware 8
Wheelset
SRAM Red 11-25 Cassette 155
Reynolds RZR 968
Tune TT MTB 24
Extralite Top Cap 3
Veloflex Carbon 23 534
Vittoria Mastik 27
Shift & Brake Group
SRAM Red eTAP FD 160
SRAM Red eTAP RD 238
SRAM Red eTAP Shifters 266
SRAM Red GXP Quarq 760
SRAM Red Chain 11s 230
Brake Cables (iLinks) 45
eeBrakes 170
Reynolds Pads 30
Other Components
Speedplay Ti Zero 172
Berk Saddle 94
Arundel Mandibles 56
Bottle Cage Bolts 2.8
Deda Bar Tape 25
Garmin Mount 37
Misc Unknown 124
Total Weight 6182.8
Looks like I'm not riding this bike this weekend :
Note to everyone, do not touch the brake levers while the strut arm is open.
Fortunately, my impatient ass ordered a Super Record groupset for the Cervelo that'll be here tomorrow since I didn't want to wait another month before my second eTap group came so I should have that ready tomorrow for the weekend. Looks like the Fuji will get some love tomorrow morning for my aero testing.
Note to everyone, do not touch the brake levers while the strut arm is open.
Fortunately, my impatient ass ordered a Super Record groupset for the Cervelo that'll be here tomorrow since I didn't want to wait another month before my second eTap group came so I should have that ready tomorrow for the weekend. Looks like the Fuji will get some love tomorrow morning for my aero testing.
Since the used value of this seems to have tanked (I hate buying new bikes) and the delta in cost between it's market value and it's replacement, an S5 seem to be shrinking, I think I'm going to keep the Foil. I was riding around this weekend after having been on the Fuji for the past few weeks and the ride is really good. It just needs to go on a diet.
I left the Fuji in Kansas City for the weekend home trip so excuse the Rival crank, but here it is today with some new rubber (Vittoria Corsa G+ Tubs):
I swapped out the bar/stem combo for an Enve 40cm SES Aero bar. I bought a cheap giant stem to test but I have a Pro 7s -10* coming in a week or so. I tried out using black athletic tape as I figured it would be pretty light. It came out to 15g which was heavier than expected, I can probably get Deda down to that range.
I left the Fuji in Kansas City for the weekend home trip so excuse the Rival crank, but here it is today with some new rubber (Vittoria Corsa G+ Tubs):
I swapped out the bar/stem combo for an Enve 40cm SES Aero bar. I bought a cheap giant stem to test but I have a Pro 7s -10* coming in a week or so. I tried out using black athletic tape as I figured it would be pretty light. It came out to 15g which was heavier than expected, I can probably get Deda down to that range.
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The Enve nipples are simply ugly.
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But the slammed stem is nice !
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LOL, maybe next time I should turn off the A/C. I agree, I don't like the integrated bar ends either, and they look even worse with the very thin tape. Anyone know how much they weigh? I was considering cutting them off to use traditional bar ends.
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