Litespeed Ghisallo 1x10 build (3.76kg or 8.29 lbs but not finished!!!!!!)

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by godzuki26

Thanks Kevosinn. Yes I will let you know about the fork. Is your uber weight weenie build project frame going to use a 1 1/8 steerer tube or are you going for the more modern tapered steerer tube? Like the outdated 26mm stem and handlebar standard, the older 1 1/8 forks are still much lighter than the newer, better handling, stiffer forks of today IMO.
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It's going to be a straight 1 1/8".
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Don't forget the storck stiletto UMS forks , 230grms on my Trek.

I love the look of the AX forks , I think it was madcow that hinted about a bad crash/failure with the AX forks.
I know of a couple of posters who used them without any issues.
Is it just the one of incident or are there more cases of failure?
I have enve 1 on my Guru and they weigh 232grms . I do slam my stem and cut off a huge amount of steerer.

Just to mention the ax brakes and the fact I had a failure of the pivot bolt on the front brake , it just snapped and I was lucky not to crash. I mailed with Nils at AX and he was first class and sending a replacement straight away. The front bolt is ti and I was unlucky to have a failure. To anyone out there thinking of using a alloy bolt for the front " DONT" I have bought some steel bolts and may use them instead " weight gain though". It was a bit scary.
I will make a thread and post photo's soon as I get a chance .
But like I said Nils at AX was brilliant and you can't fault that kind of customer service.
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godzuki26 wrote: I never paid attention to headset spacer weights. Are there lighter ones out there?


Point One (now Gamut?) 1x5mm spacers weight 1.1g (Toronto Cycle source).
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@Xena - That is some scary stuff with the caliper bolt failing during a ride. That could be catastrophic. As for the fork, all I heard was the incident from Madcow but no other specific details. I don't know people who have used this fork or owned an Ax Lightness Alpha module so I guess it is not the most accurate to say the fork is unsafe.

@danbjpa - I thought the Extralite Delrin spacers were a little heavy. I have some Omni Racer carbon spacers that look very similar to the pic you attached. I will weigh them to see. Thanks.
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I guess just because the brand is Extralite doesn't mean it is always the lightest. These 2 Omni Racer 5mm carbon spacers are half the weight of the delrin Extralite spacers. A gram here and a gram there adds up quickly. Weigh everything :mrgreen:

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I cut the Ax Lightness handlebars to a length I prefer. Chopped off 7 grams which would make the final weight of the bar 142 grams.

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Weight of the handlebar and stem. Much lighter than any weight I can achieve with a 31.8 mm stem and Oversize 31.8mm handlebar. Would I ever use a combo like this in a crit race that require surges in power output along with super sharp handling? No I would probably not. Atleast not until the combo is permanently bonded as Xena and kevosinn suggested.

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Here is how I look with the bars cut. Once I do a few more test rides I will slam the stem and retake pics. I always leave 10mm of cushion even if I know my measurements.

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Slam that stem . I'm loving this :thumbup:

Bar stem combo would be bonkers light ,,,,,I'm so jealous what a brilliant build :beerchug:
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Really interesting build :) Quite inspiring to see the lengths you can go to take out so much weight. Are you planning on using the bike much or is it more of a technical challenge?

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Bar/Stem combo's normally end up at the same weight or just slightly above having now done 2 with different builders.
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@Ulver - That is a very good question. This has quickly turned into a technical build. I honestly feel like I am chasing a weight rather than looking for ride quality. For example, even though I know Recon aluminum cassettes suck, I will be slapping one on this build to get the weight down. With my tubular wheelset I am on target to be under 9 lbs which is pretty cool for a titanium bike. This is my first attempt at tuning parts rather than just buying the lightest. It has been quite fun so far.

I will definitely give an honest ride quality report when I take this skinny minny on the road.
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I know the feeling, I think sometimes the building/bringing together various components is as much fun if not more than the end result. I guess once you have built it up and ridden it a bit you will quickly know where the performance compromises are and you've got plenty of wiggle room to build back in some components and still end up with a mega light bike!

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Nice who cuts ur carbon steerer tubes and bars? He must be goot guy!


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