TCR Advanced Pro 1 tad small?

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Arfer01
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by Arfer01

Marin wrote:Looks fine. A slightly longer stem or a tad more saddle setback to open up the upper arm angle maybe?




oh my, never change saddle setback to change front end reach!

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Clannagh
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by Clannagh

That looks fine to me to, maybe extend the stem 10mm or so if your unsure.

simacu
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by simacu

Great to hear guys. I guess I can stop flapping now and just get on with it - think I will go for the 110mm stem as advised to open my arms up a little though. Don't really want to put the saddle back any more as it will look like I ready to bob a wheelie!

I originally ordered a canyon, this to be exact:

https://www.canyon.com/en-jp/road/ultimate/2016/ultimate-cf-sl-9-0-aero.html

But they're having trouble with a new factory and SAP system so even after 7 weeks they still couldn't give me a date for shipping. Canyon's smart fitting website also put me at a medium and that has almost the same dimensions as the M size TCR - I guess they fit bikes in a more competitive fit.

Glad to have the Giant though, new model vs 2 yr old frame with good, but slightly old fashioned aero rims


Cheers chaps

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by mimason

We are the same height and my B/rain bike is a ML, -10 110stem slammed. You have longer legs but I either have more torso or neck. I think you would look better on the ML but the M looks to fit you fine. Im in the 120 stem camp as I think that is the sweet spot for handling, looks and feel. I can't ride my ML with a 120 unless I go to a bar with less reach. The M would allow for the 120 to work but you get a lot of toe overlap. Not a big deal but I like to do track stands :) If I were to purchase another TCR I would get a Medium as well and fit long an low.

You look aero in the drops but like others said you probably could stretch out a bit. Maybe before you go longer in the stem, lower it.

simacu
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by simacu

Sounds like a good idea to try lower. Need to give my back time to adjust to road riding again though as for the last 8 weeks I've been riding a mountain bike due to waiting on Canyon. Then probably change the stem cos if i don't I'll never stop wondering.

I also like to do track stands but probably suck at it compared to someone with a decent sense of balance

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by fogman

It does look like you could use a slightly longer stem to me. Object is to try to get your arms at a 90 degree angle to your torso with elbows slightly bent. You should consult your bike fitter to be certain.
It's all downhill from here, except for the uphills.

simacu
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by simacu

Patience is a virtue, unfortunately I don't have a lot. With that, went ahead and bought a used FSA 120mm stem for about $30 or ¥2950 in my local currency. Should be here tomorrow or the day after, so cheap way to see if there is an improvement. If not: For Sale, FSA Reparto Corse 120mm stem

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by CPongpanich

Looks just right.

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by mimason

simacu wrote:Patience is a virtue, unfortunately I don't have a lot. With that, went ahead and bought a used FSA 120mm stem for about $30 or ¥2950 in my local currency. Should be here tomorrow or the day after, so cheap way to see if there is an improvement. If not: For Sale, FSA Reparto Corse 120mm stem


You need a 1 1/4" stem not 1 1/8".

Just see if you can lower the existing stem before you pull the trigger on anything else. Be patient :)

simacu
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by simacu

Noticed that important point 5 minutes after I ordered. Managed to cancel in time.

For the moment, i think i want to go longer before i go lower. Seat is raked back quite a bit so want to slide that a little forward which makes 120mm sound like my best option. Will order from LBS and if too long will change to 110mm. Arse-about-face way of doing it of course :)

simacu
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by simacu

Does Ape Index have anything to do with saddle to bar drop ?

I just measured my arm spam. Height 180.5 cm Arm span 189 cm. + 8.5. Pretty apeish. Bit hairy too so guess that puts me even closer to our jungle-dwelling cousins ;)

Better try whipping out a few spacers as suggested

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by fogman

Yes, ape index does factor into handlebar drop.

I read somewhere that a good approximation of saddle-handlebar drop should be 11% of your bottom bracket-saddle height. Other factors include hip flexion and arm length.
It's all downhill from here, except for the uphills.

jeffy
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by jeffy

clx
(54S) stack 582 reach 385

TCR2016
M stack 54.5 reach 38.3
M/L stack 56.7 reach 39.8

M/L is quite a lot longer. CLX is 37mm higher than the Medium TCR

For your height then a Medium is good. Looks fine, and as said before better to make a smaller bike bigger than vice versa.
Position/sizing is fine, it all depends how comfortable for how long you will be in the new lower position aka bikefit

Delorre
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by Delorre

jeffy wrote:clx
(54S) stack 582 reach 385

TCR2016
M stack 54.5 reach 38.3
M/L stack 56.7 reach 39.8



where do you get those Giant figures from? :shock:

Should be : http://www.giant-bicycles.com/nl-be/bikes/model/tcr.advanced.sl.ff/25378/91428/#geometry

M stack 55,2 reach 38,6
M/L stack 56,6 reach 39,1

Personally, a M/L seems more appropriate for him. No more spacers and a 110mm stem. M looks a tad small to me, but nothing wrong at all. Pro's tend to ride their bikes 1 size 'to small' also :wink:

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by simacu

Actually, it was a 52s, my mistake. Here is a picture of it that took before selling. Post down for photo.

https://goo.gl/photos/ouLqDmwWf1evif1B7

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