Titanium Fleet Update
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Just got my hands on the new 4 arm Super Record chainsets and fitted them to the bikes, so I thought it was a good excuse to post an update. Monsoon weather in Singapore means no riding outside for the moment, so a few quick snaps before an hour on the turbo trainer!
I went for my first ride last night, and first impressions are good. Firstly, let’s get over the looks. They do look much better in the flesh, and very much like the Mavic ‘starfish’ from back in the day looking down on them when seated on the bike. I happen to prefer them. On a modern bike, they look great. However, they might look a bit ‘brutal’ on a thin tubed steel frame.
Stiffness? Hmm, a real game of 2 halves. At the point at which you apply the most power (namely on the down stroke on each side), they are really stiff. However, compared to the 5 arm version, you can noticeably flex the outer chainring with your fingers at the widest gap in between the down strokes. On the bike, I haven’t noticed it, but in the workstand, it is quite disconcerting. Anyway, if the pros use them all season in 2015 with no amendments, I will be happy that they can take my meagre power output!
I think for now the bikes are done. Just put the same 46cm Zipp shallow bars on them all which has made the position and ride more similar, although if somebody can recommend me some bar tape that will wrap a 46cm bar, I would love to know. Even the Brompton has had every bolt replaced and every plastic original part replaced with something more robust. Bromptons are great bikes, but honestly some of the stock parts suck! The only change I need to make is to fit a smaller outer ring to the cross bike once Campagnolo make it. For now, the 50t will have to do. I tend to spend most time in the 34/36 anyway off road.
Frame - Moots Vamoots RD
Fork - ENVE Tapered RD
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo PF BB30
Pedals - Look Keo Carbon Ti
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 SL Road
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Super Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - Tune King / Kong Disc (28 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC tubular (28 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Continental Competition (25mm)
Stem - Moots RSL (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - Moots Cinch (30.9mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Frame - Moots Psyclo X RSL
Fork - ENVE Tapered CX
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo PF BB30
Pedals - Shimano XTR
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 SL Road
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Super Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - Chris King R45 Disc (32 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC clincher (32 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Vittoria Cyclocross XM (34mm)
Stem - Moots RSL (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - Moots Cinch (30.9mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Frame - Seven Evergreen SL
Fork - ENVE Tapered CX (amended by Seven to add eyelets and dynamo routing)
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo Record
Pedals - Look Keo Carbon CroMo
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 Road / Ti Bolts
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - SON Delux / Tune Kong Disc (32 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC clincher (28 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Challenge Strada Bianca (30mm)
Fenders - SKS Chromoplastic (45mm)
Stem- ENVE Carbon (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - ENVE Carbon (27.2mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Front Light - Schmidt Edelux 2
Rear Light - DiNotte 300
Frame - Lynskey Pro 29SL
Fork - Niner RDO
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - White Industries ENO (175mm, 32)
Bottom Bracket – Phil Wood 113mm
Pedals - Shimano XTR Race
Brakes - Shimano XTR / Ice Tech rotors
Chain - SRAM 870
Cassette - Chris King Stainless Steel Cog (18)
Hubs - SON Delux 15mm / Hope Pro 2 EVO Single Speed
Rims - Stan's ZTR Crest
Spokes - DT Competition
Tyres - Schwalbe Nobby Nic Snakeskin (2.25 / 2.35)
Stem - Thomson X4 (100mm)
Bars - Thomson Carbon Centre Rise
Seatpost - Thomson Elite (27.2mm, inline)
Saddle - Selle Italia Flite 1990
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - ODI Ruffian
Front Light - Supernova E3 Triple 2
Rear Light - Supernova E3 3 LED
Frame - Brompton S Raw Lacquer / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Fork - Brompton Raw Lacquer
Aheadset - Shimano XTR
Chainset - White Industries ENO (175mm, 32)
Bottom Bracket - Shimano UN-55
Pedals - Shimano XT Trail
Rear Derailleur - Bromptification CNC Aluminium
Shifters - Brompton
Brakes - Brompton / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Chain - SRAM 870
Cassette - Brompton 2 Speed
Hubs - Brompton 2 speed / Superlight
Rims - Brompton
Spokes - Brompton
Quick Release - Bromptification Ti Bolts
Tyres - Schwalbe Kojak
Fenders - Brompton
Stem - Brompton S Raw Lacquer / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Bars - USE Carbon Riser
Seatpost - Bromptification Titanium
Saddle - Brooks Swift Titanium
Grip - ODI Ruffian
I went for my first ride last night, and first impressions are good. Firstly, let’s get over the looks. They do look much better in the flesh, and very much like the Mavic ‘starfish’ from back in the day looking down on them when seated on the bike. I happen to prefer them. On a modern bike, they look great. However, they might look a bit ‘brutal’ on a thin tubed steel frame.
Stiffness? Hmm, a real game of 2 halves. At the point at which you apply the most power (namely on the down stroke on each side), they are really stiff. However, compared to the 5 arm version, you can noticeably flex the outer chainring with your fingers at the widest gap in between the down strokes. On the bike, I haven’t noticed it, but in the workstand, it is quite disconcerting. Anyway, if the pros use them all season in 2015 with no amendments, I will be happy that they can take my meagre power output!
I think for now the bikes are done. Just put the same 46cm Zipp shallow bars on them all which has made the position and ride more similar, although if somebody can recommend me some bar tape that will wrap a 46cm bar, I would love to know. Even the Brompton has had every bolt replaced and every plastic original part replaced with something more robust. Bromptons are great bikes, but honestly some of the stock parts suck! The only change I need to make is to fit a smaller outer ring to the cross bike once Campagnolo make it. For now, the 50t will have to do. I tend to spend most time in the 34/36 anyway off road.
Frame - Moots Vamoots RD
Fork - ENVE Tapered RD
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo PF BB30
Pedals - Look Keo Carbon Ti
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 SL Road
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Super Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - Tune King / Kong Disc (28 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC tubular (28 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Continental Competition (25mm)
Stem - Moots RSL (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - Moots Cinch (30.9mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Frame - Moots Psyclo X RSL
Fork - ENVE Tapered CX
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo PF BB30
Pedals - Shimano XTR
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Super Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 SL Road
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Super Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - Chris King R45 Disc (32 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC clincher (32 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Vittoria Cyclocross XM (34mm)
Stem - Moots RSL (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - Moots Cinch (30.9mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Frame - Seven Evergreen SL
Fork - ENVE Tapered CX (amended by Seven to add eyelets and dynamo routing)
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - Campagnolo Super Record Ti (175mm, 50 / 34)
Bottom Bracket - Campagnolo Record
Pedals - Look Keo Carbon CroMo
Front Derailleur - Campagnolo Record EPS
Rear Derailleur - Campagnolo Record EPS
Shifters - Campagnolo Record EPS
Brakes - Avid BB7 Road / Ti Bolts
Chain - KMC X-11 SL
Cassette - Campagnolo Record (12 / 25)
Hubs - SON Delux / Tune Kong Disc (32 hole)
Rims - ENVE XC clincher (28 hole)
Spokes - Sapim CX Ray
Quick Release - DT RWS Ti
Tyres - Challenge Strada Bianca (30mm)
Fenders - SKS Chromoplastic (45mm)
Stem- ENVE Carbon (120mm)
Bars - Zipp Service Course SL-80 (460mm)
Seatpost - ENVE Carbon (27.2mm, 20mm layback)
Saddle - Fizik Arione CX
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - Deda Tape
Front Light - Schmidt Edelux 2
Rear Light - DiNotte 300
Frame - Lynskey Pro 29SL
Fork - Niner RDO
Aheadset - Chris King Inset 7
Chainset - White Industries ENO (175mm, 32)
Bottom Bracket – Phil Wood 113mm
Pedals - Shimano XTR Race
Brakes - Shimano XTR / Ice Tech rotors
Chain - SRAM 870
Cassette - Chris King Stainless Steel Cog (18)
Hubs - SON Delux 15mm / Hope Pro 2 EVO Single Speed
Rims - Stan's ZTR Crest
Spokes - DT Competition
Tyres - Schwalbe Nobby Nic Snakeskin (2.25 / 2.35)
Stem - Thomson X4 (100mm)
Bars - Thomson Carbon Centre Rise
Seatpost - Thomson Elite (27.2mm, inline)
Saddle - Selle Italia Flite 1990
Bottle Cages - King Titanium
Grip - ODI Ruffian
Front Light - Supernova E3 Triple 2
Rear Light - Supernova E3 3 LED
Frame - Brompton S Raw Lacquer / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Fork - Brompton Raw Lacquer
Aheadset - Shimano XTR
Chainset - White Industries ENO (175mm, 32)
Bottom Bracket - Shimano UN-55
Pedals - Shimano XT Trail
Rear Derailleur - Bromptification CNC Aluminium
Shifters - Brompton
Brakes - Brompton / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Chain - SRAM 870
Cassette - Brompton 2 Speed
Hubs - Brompton 2 speed / Superlight
Rims - Brompton
Spokes - Brompton
Quick Release - Bromptification Ti Bolts
Tyres - Schwalbe Kojak
Fenders - Brompton
Stem - Brompton S Raw Lacquer / Bromptification Ti Bolts
Bars - USE Carbon Riser
Seatpost - Bromptification Titanium
Saddle - Brooks Swift Titanium
Grip - ODI Ruffian
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Thanks. Just bought some bouncy forks, ENVE wheels and XTR 11 speed for the Lynskey. Will keep hold of the single speed rigid kit for winter riding back home in the UK.
Very different horses for different courses.
The Schmidt is a road specific light, whereas the Supernova E3 Triple is only legal off road due to the beam pattern.
That aside, I prefer the Supernova for a few reasons:
1) The quality of construction is better. The Supernova machining is nicer quality and the on/off switch is also much more robust.
2) The rear light attachment is much neater on the Supernova when used in conjunction with their own rear light. If you want to use another brand however, the Schmidt is more versatile.
3) The dual core wiring used on the Supernova is easier to wire vs the coaxial Schmidt version.
The Schmidt is a very nice light, and in use the beam pattern is perfect and plenty bright enough. It just doesn't feel quite as nice in the hand.
As for the rear light, the DiNotte is amazing. Can't recommend it enough. Bright, robust, well made, long run time. The Supernova light is nice and compact, but nothing to compare to the versatility and brightness of the DiNotte.
I see you're running two different dynamo lights with the SON hub, can you compare the SON EDelux II to the Supernova?
Very different horses for different courses.
The Schmidt is a road specific light, whereas the Supernova E3 Triple is only legal off road due to the beam pattern.
That aside, I prefer the Supernova for a few reasons:
1) The quality of construction is better. The Supernova machining is nicer quality and the on/off switch is also much more robust.
2) The rear light attachment is much neater on the Supernova when used in conjunction with their own rear light. If you want to use another brand however, the Schmidt is more versatile.
3) The dual core wiring used on the Supernova is easier to wire vs the coaxial Schmidt version.
The Schmidt is a very nice light, and in use the beam pattern is perfect and plenty bright enough. It just doesn't feel quite as nice in the hand.
As for the rear light, the DiNotte is amazing. Can't recommend it enough. Bright, robust, well made, long run time. The Supernova light is nice and compact, but nothing to compare to the versatility and brightness of the DiNotte.
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Do you know how much you Psyclo x weighs?
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Thanks for resurrecting the thread.
I use Parlee clamps. They seem to spread the load across a wider and more even area.
The Psyclo X weights 7.8kgs.
Ironically despite the weight, the Seven is my favourite bike to ride. Might be the geometry, the fatter tyres or something I am missing, but (other than uphill), it rides and tracks beautifully.
The Lynskey now has a child seat fitted (horror!). A bit of overkill for the school run and canal towpath Sunday rides with the family, but I like it that way!
I use Parlee clamps. They seem to spread the load across a wider and more even area.
The Psyclo X weights 7.8kgs.
Ironically despite the weight, the Seven is my favourite bike to ride. Might be the geometry, the fatter tyres or something I am missing, but (other than uphill), it rides and tracks beautifully.
The Lynskey now has a child seat fitted (horror!). A bit of overkill for the school run and canal towpath Sunday rides with the family, but I like it that way!