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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:16 am 
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Lighting is really bad, at least on my computer screen. Would really like to see it since I love this bike, but can't see anything other than the frame really.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:19 am 
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Why do u change the handlebar?

At my opinion it looks better...

Nice bike. Congrats!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:25 am 
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I will probably take an outside pic of it on Thursday, but its snowing out right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:08 am 
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Kind of dig the new bar. Personally I don't like that particular bend but it looks good. Also, the DA rings look a bit funky with the Rotor crank, aesthetically speaking. Im sure they work great!

I think I saw you warming up at the entrance to the Black Hills this past sunday as I was leaving. I raced twice that day so it was a long day and we left after the 4/5 race. Matt and Steve was out there loitering too :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:55 am 
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Like the paint scheme of your bike. May be you should give a -17 stem a try. A 3T stem/bar combo would look great :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:30 pm 
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Yah, the problem is that I do not like the drops on compact bend bars. Tried pretty much every brand and Deda is the best, but still not 100%. The NeoClassics were pretty cheap so I thought I would give them a try. In the past I used 3T Rotundos for about 2 years, but the ramp to the hoods isn't quite as nice as these.

I'll take some pics outside soon, but the bars look much more like a classic bar than they do in the pics here.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:32 pm 
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plpete wrote:
Kind of dig the new bar. Personally I don't like that particular bend but it looks good. Also, the DA rings look a bit funky with the Rotor crank, aesthetically speaking. Im sure they work great!

I think I saw you warming up at the entrance to the Black Hills this past sunday as I was leaving. I raced twice that day so it was a long day and we left after the 4/5 race. Matt and Steve was out there loitering too :)

Ahh damn, missed ya. Hopefully you had a fun race. I have a love/hate relationship with that course- the break went right in front of me and I did nothing, so this year its a hate relationship b/c the break won. Saw Matt and the sasquatch on their MTBs.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:11 pm 
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The Neo Classics are my new go to. Awesome bars and the ramp to hood is perfect - I think they look real nice on your setup, bad light and all.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:49 pm 
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The race was great although I was a bit cooked for the 4/5. I got 20th for Cat5 so not too horrible for my first time. Wheels stayed down! The finishing hill does take a bit out of you each time so I definitely get the hate part.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:48 pm 
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neo classic has the credentials to be like 3rd best bar on the planet!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:03 pm 
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How are those Rails treating you so far? Interested to hear your feedback as you've got recent experience with the 404 as well.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:11 pm 
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Fantastic build. Agree regarding Arundels. Chapeau.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:11 pm 
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On the last photo, your brake cable looks really long.

Rest looks really good.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:38 pm 
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Imaking20 wrote:
How are those Rails treating you so far? Interested to hear your feedback as you've got recent experience with the 404 as well.

If/when I get the time I will do a full write up in the future. The build is very, very stuff mainly due to the hubs. The rims themselves are pretty fast and very stout feeling, but in a good way. Braking is their worst flaw, but its still not as bad as many earlier carbon wheels and perhaps the Black Prince pads are not the best for these rims. I might try the Enve or Reynolds pads next. They seem to be a bit "different" in cross winds than the Zipps, which I understand to be due to their shape and stall at specific yaw angles. I've been told that this behavior is similar to Enve Smart System wheels, but its not exactly a feeling I prefer. In this regard I found my 808 Firecrests to be more stable, but I prefer this build because of its stiffness and lower weight.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:46 pm 
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Well done! Did you get rid of the P2Max and the Q rings?


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