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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:04 pm 
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If Colnago's 'art decor" is derived from Art Deco and looking at the rider graph on the top of the tt it certainly is, then I have to say that beside some graphics there is nothing Art Deco on the paint scheme.
Neither the lettering nor the colors or the color transitions.
Needs to be clearly divided into different color fields with use of pastel colors and different lettering.
Some orange/black Colnago paint schemes are more Art Nouveau than Art Deco.
Colnago needs to look at some paints and paint schemes of the Baum Corretto which are much more Art Deco than this bike.Example B.C.in GTR Grey
Almost needless to add that Colnago is the best Italian bike IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:09 pm 
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Yeah do what you want, just think the more retro/classic/master type paints is the ADs and PRs look odd on a sloping frame.

FWIW I think you run enough drop to have a trad. :)


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:00 pm 
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Perhaps the OP doesn't want a traditonal geom?

What does it matter? sloping or traditional, the important thing is its a Colnago. They look equally as good in sloping.


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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giant man wrote:
Perhaps the OP doesn't want a traditonal geom?

What does it matter? sloping or traditional, the important thing is its a Colnago. They look equally as good in sloping.

:thumbup: sloping for me

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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markyboy wrote:
:thumbup: sloping for me


It's a slippery slope. :P

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:55 pm 
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So then why is Ernesto producing them in slooping, if that's the way it shouldn't be?


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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Awesome!

Build your beautiful sloped frame any way you like it. But dont mix gruopsets... :smartass:


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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PSM wrote:
Awesome!

Build your beautiful sloped frame any way you like it. But dont mix gruopsets... :smartass:

I have just taken my super record Eps off the c59 matt black and its ready to go on the new frame when it arrives.

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:06 pm 
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very nice

just ordered mine to in a 64 nero traditional.

i like the art decor but i have 2 masters and personally think the colour scheme looks better on steel

also, i'm told by mike that traditional are finishing.


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:30 am 
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The AD frame looks beautiful, wish there were more paint schemes like this.


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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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Because it is a Colnago it is easy to say that this is the worst paint job on it calling it Art Decor.
However Markyboy enjoy your ride.

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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I'm normally an arch Colnago traditionalist (apart from the Shimano thing, obviously), and all my Colnagi have been trad geo. But something about the C59 (though I'm never gonna buy one - waiting for the C60) makes it appeal to me more as a sloping frame. Go figure.

Anyway, looks lovely and can't wait to see it built up. So pleased they got rid of that terrible 'modern' font they were using briefly for the lettering on these.

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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dominikk wrote:
So then why is Ernesto producing them in slooping, if that's the way it shouldn't be?

Same reason every manufacturer is... Ease of manufacturing, ease of stocking, ease of selling. Less inventory. Fewer size choices and with sloping frames it is easier to fit a wider range of folks without it looking too weird. Plus, and this in no small reason, because that's been the trend and as the old adage goes "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em".
IMO sloping frames don't work as well with lugged construction looks wise but Colnago has done as good a job as anyone in this regard keeping the slope fairly reasonable. All depends on the size too. I think the 58 sloping is hideous. But the 54 sloping can look great when done right. Sort of all depends on setup. In fact, I think Colnago is really only producing "traditional" frames as special orders at this point.

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Wow. No more traditional geometry C59 frames? That's a terrible move. I know that everyone has an opinion, but to say that a sloping frame looks as good as a traditional frame just sounds like pure malarkey. Hogwash, even.

A sloping Colnago is like a front engine Ferrari: sure, it's still nice, but it doesn't have the "soul" that epitomizes the brand.

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 Post subject: Re: C59 AD10
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Agreed! Give me Tradtional, or give me ... uh, er...
And for the record 1) I never said that a sloping frame looks as good, but it can look alright depending on the size and how it's done. But the same holds true for traditional frames. I've seen some pretty ugly traditional setups as well. And 2) I don't have any official word that there will be no more traditional frames, but my friend, who just ordered one in the last couple of weeks was told that no more Traditional frames would be coming into the US except by special order. And that is what I'm basing my statement above on. I said this before, and I know it's a stretch, but I wouldn't even be surprised if the C60 is not lugged. But like I said I have no better info on that than anyone else, except from watching market trends over the years. And Ernesto isn't getting any younger. So hang on to your lugged traditional Colnagos... if you think they're worth a lot now, just wait. And even if their value doesn't increase, they will for sure be sought after frames for years to come.

Sorry to detract from this build thread, a bit off topic I know... this is going to be a very nice build. The AD scheme in blue is one of the few colour schemes I like that is currently offered on the C59.

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