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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:33 pm 
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For about three or four years, the Kuota KOM has been my most coveted (carbon) frame, but out my reach, when considered prudently. Some time ago, though, a mostly cosmetically damaged specimen showed up on Ebay, in my size. For a low three digit figure I couldn't let this slip, and the repair was only like 50.

One thing that changed, though, is my affinity to bike bling, so this is going to be a rather subtle -- cheap looking, if you insist -- build, with mostly metal parts. Planning on Deda kit and Shimano Dura Ace/Ultegra/105 "parts bin mix" group.

Very much looking forward to getting this build going. The only (carbon) frames that could tempt me in the years to come would be Colnago C59, or Look 695 Mondrian, I suppose. One can but dream.

Sub-7 should be possible, although (sorry) this build is about subtlety, consistency, and reliability. Pics coming.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:51 am 
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Looking forward to this, you don't need anodized or carbon parts to make a bike look good.
Which wheels are you going for?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am 
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theosaurus: I'll be running my trusty 44mm Yishun tubulars. There is some desire for shallower 24mm tubulars building, though.

Frame size XL with hardware¹: 1053g
Fork with bottom headset race² and expander³: 392g
Subtotal: 1445g

For the finishing kit I'm considering two options:
  • Silver Deda Quattro stem with Newton Deep or Speciale 31 handlebars and Metal Stick post (RS01 post is over 300g). Silver Newton Deep and Speciale 31 are quite hard to find, though.
  • Deda "Dark Metal Polish" Zero 100 stem, Newton Anatomic handlebars, and Zero 100 seatpost. Matching Zero 100 bars are a bit rare, so I'm warming up to the idea of an anatomic shape, and with a stem angle smaller than 17° I need more drop anyway.

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¹ Seatpost clamp, barrel adjusters, BB bottom cable guide, 4x bottle cage bolts
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:12 pm 
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Was my most desired frame,too.
Best decision made to purchase a KOM.
So looking forward to your built.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:44 pm 
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Meanwhile I'm having the hardest time finding an oversize clamp silver Deda handlebar, regardless of it being any of the Newton models, or the Speciale 31. For the "dark metal polished" colourway old stock is available, not so much for the plain silver ones.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:44 am 
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Wassertreter, thought it is of importance to mention that my KOM (evo) frame has a "strange" size below the seat post clamp .It measures 36.30mm. This was the reason why a Token clamp with 34.9 I had in my spares did not fit.
So Kuota has made this area a little bit stronger than other manufacturers with same sized seat posts.
May be this is a good idea .
Though was quite happy because I like one piece clamps and had to order a 36.9mm at Carbon Ti to fit the 36.3 of the KOM.
So if you want to get rid of your very heavy Kuota clamp take care not to order a 34.9 dia.
But not sure if the 36.3mm outer dia of my KOM frame is also current for your frame.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:04 pm 
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Good info, cheers bura.

About the cockpit, I couldn't get to a satisfactory solution with Deda parts (no polished handlebar found / ditched the "dark metal" ano idea), so I'm going for plain BBB parts. BBB have polished handlebars in classic and anatomic shapes, stem in 6 and 17° and seatposts. And the best of all, it's a "cheap" brand, typically associated with warehouse bikes, thus very much in line with the lo-fi¹ goal of this build. The weight of their parts seems on par with typical aluminium kit.

About the wheels, here we have two 32mm FIR aluminium tubular front wheels that were used by Kelme in TTs back in the day. To the extent of my knowledge they were not commercially available. Need to get them polished, and then maybe drill extra holes into one for a rear 18:9 triplet lacing on a 36h hub. Would be quite something.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:58 pm 
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Got the BBB anatomic handlebars (248g) and seatpost (lotsofgrams), will try with the 100mm Deda Quattro stem (also lotsofgrams) and then decide what length BBB stem to get.

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Still tempted to try a Deda Newton Deep, though.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:17 pm 
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Since I had a used RD-7800 on stash, it was too hard to not get a matching used FD. Since I'm going to run 50/34 chainrings, I'm hoping the FD will handle that gracefully -- the spec'd capacity is only 15t.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:05 pm 
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Everything seems to match up today.
Looking forward to your complete built.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:44 pm 
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Not sure the wheels will be ready in time for the build, but can't harm to have the hubs on the cupboard, they are quite hard to find at a reasonable price.

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PS: all the cheering makes me want to look for DA 7800 brakes and pedals too, although I had planned to use my 6600 ones from the parts bin.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:02 pm 
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DA is sooo cool!
Looking forward to seeing this


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:47 am 
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Undecided on this one, might fit the monochrome/polish scheme or just look completely ridiculous (or both). Saddles with a spoiler in the rear and a relief channel fit me very well, particularly when riding in the drops. The Fizik Aliante Versus in white/silver is another candidate, or the Aspide I've been riding for a few years, but would like to try something a little wider, for the longest days.

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(This is a Fizik Vesta "Bicycle Relief" edition, weighing 279g)


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