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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:36 pm 
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The logo and falcon head design look great too after all the hullabaloo about the old font...


This was my very first thought. Thanks for working on it elviento, the logo looks much, much better now!
Great looking bike. :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:40 pm 
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Yes it is indeed similar to the Madone seatpost although ti is a much better material for such design (imagine gun barrel sliding in a shaft).

The longer topper is deliberate and a change from the last version. This is because titanium ISPs are incredibly difficult to cut compared to carbon, so you would need to start with a shorter ISP to allow a bit more adjustment (around 55mm) here, which practically eliminates the need for cutting and the usual complaint against ISPs.

FYI, for this frame with a 54 TT, the lowest saddle height is around 69 and the highest is around 74. Another consideration is transportation. In fact, I went so far as working on an internal topper for cleaner looks but that never went very far.

Another change from the last one, if you look closely enough, is that the front end of the top tube has been raised by 5mm, which isn't much but the head tube now looks slightly more coordinated.

The cable bend is overall a bit less than the traditional routing (approx 150 degrees v. 250 degrees), and cable length is shorter by around 60mm so it's a good change there.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:42 pm 
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That is really nice . :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:03 pm 
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BTW, just posted 2 more detail pics in the original post...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:02 pm 
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Like this a lot. But what is the weight properly fully built (with pedals!) ? :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:20 pm 
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Well done, I'm always interested in seeing a well executed titanium frame and you sir have nailed. Us old guys always love ti. :smartass:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:36 pm 
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Very nice bike :thumbup:

I think I need to add a Ti bike to my collection in the future.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:53 pm 
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I actually like the bar tape...go figure.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:57 am 
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Eurperg "Clean lines and not too obtrusive logos. Nice head tube area. Stem matches nicely.

I think it looks better than a Lynskey or Moots."

+1^

Bar tape is'nt my thing, But Damn nice bike, Top job!!!

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made in china ? the photo show not very clear.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:00 am 
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Doesn't matter where it was made, it's a great looking bike.


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You need one of these to go with your bar tape :lol: :shock:
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Where do I get one? :lol:

BTW, a bit more info on construction --- to deal with the usual claim of "softness", we have used a tapered head tube and large 45mm down tube. Bottom bracket is BB386 which is pretty awesome to behold (is this one of the very few BB386 ti bikes out there?). Chainstays are 33X18 near the BB and taper into a smaller diameter. Seat tube is slightly smaller than usual at around 29 to give it an even more comfortable ride.

Another cool thing is that the ISP topper uses carbon cradles, giving it a weight of 105g. This to me is great news, especially since I am not sacrificing strength and solidness. The top of the ISP can be made thinner than a traditional seat tube collar as the stress is less at that section. Di2 conversion can be done pretty easily as well.

The guys that built it have been building ti bikes for years (in some cases close to 20 years). Their work has been sold worldwide under many US and European brands. These are solid craftsman in my mind, especially since I get to hang out w/ them and get to know them.

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Hmmm thought it had a tapered head tube, nice 8) Shame to use a standard BSA chainset in that BB386 although I think only FSA currently make a chainset to fit it? Be nice to utilize the bottom bracket with a suitable oversized axle, I think you can get BB30 adapters for those yeah? Stick a Hollogram chainset on it 8)

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A BB30 crank would indeed be nice, but I just can't bring myself to get an FSA crank. I doubt hollowgram can go on there, probably too narrow to begin with. Fortunately 7900 isn't known to be soft, so I will live with it for now.

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Hmmm thought it had a tapered head tube, nice 8) Shame to use a standard BSA chainset in that BB386 although I think only FSA currently make a chainset to fit it? Be nice to utilize the bottom bracket with a suitable oversized axle, I think you can get BB30 adapters for those yeah? Stick a Hollogram chainset on it 8)

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