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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:06 am 
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Here's my new Parlee Z3.

I know I'm going to get comments about the stem needing to be flipped. I can move the CF spacer below the stem and flip it to have close to the same dimensions, but I may end up cutting the steerer tube and getting rid of the spacer altogether. Let me know your thoughts.

I have her down to 4.95kg with the following build:

Parlee Z3 size Small (didn't weigh as I already installed the Chris King HS)
Enve 1.0 fork 269g w/200mm steerer tube (switch out the Enve 2.0 and saved 67g)
Chris King HS 105g (w/o star flange, bolt & cap)
BTP CF Steerer top 5.4g
Enve 120mm Stem 125.8g
Enve 42.0 bars 209.7g
Lizard Skins wrap 44g
2012 Campy SR11: stock Shifters, stock Ft Der, Rr Der w/Fibre-Lyte rear cage (didn't weigh)
Parlee CF 34.9mm Ft Der clamp (didn't weigh)
K-Edge chain catcher (didn't weigh)
Alligator shifter barrel adjustors (didn't weigh)
Nokon CF Shifter housing, PowerCordz cables (didn't weigh)
Nokon Alloy Brake housing, Telfon coated cables (didn't weigh)
Stork Powerarms SL 460.1g including THM BB
KCNC Cobweb 53/39 rings (didn't weigh, although I have a set of 50/34 Cobwebs that are 81.2g/31.4g)
KMC 11sp chain (didn't weigh)
Speedplay Zero Ti 166.3g
Reynolds RZR 878g
Tufo tubulars (118.9g/122.7g)
Tufo tape (didn't weigh)
Enve valve extensions 4.2g
Recon 11 sp 11-29 cassette 133.5g
Feather Brakes, Reynolds pads 199.4g
Berk Custom CF Saddle/seatpost combo 280mm 119.5g
Parlee seatpost clamp 20.6g
Arundel Mandible cages 27.5g/29.1g (4 Nylon bolts 0.8g)


I know I can get her lower changing out the following, but I'm not sure I want to since I ride this almost daily.

Chris King HS 105g > KCNC M3 Morion = ~60g
Enve 120mm Stem 125.8g > I have a Rotor S3 (109.3g = 16.5g OR I can switch to Extralite ~95g = ~30g
Enve 42.0 bars 209.7g > Zipp SL ~180g = 25g since I would need to add bar end cap
Nokon Alloy Brake housing, Telfon coated cables > PowerCordz cable = ~20-25g
Stork Standard 172.5 Powerarms SL 460.1g including THM BB > I have a set of Lightning Compact cranks w/ceramic BB 409.8g (~50g) see last pic
Speedplay Zero Ti 166.3g > Aerolites TT (~66g) = ~100g
KCNC Cobweb 53/39 rings > 50/34 Cobwebs = not sure the actual savings but I assume there is some
Feather Brakes, Reynolds pads 199.4g > I have a set of 2012 CF Gravitas (stop better with the heated spring) at 174.4g with pads = 25g (could go lighter, but I enjoy stopping when I want/need to
Parlee seatpost clamp 20.6g > BTP ~5g = 15g
Arundel Mandible cages 27.5g/29.1g > BTP makes some new 6.5g cages that work with Parlee studs = ~42g

This would get me close to sub 10. I'm going to switch out the crankset, rings, brakes (should I sand off the white skull logo to maintain the all black look? I may anodize the Recon cassette black as well.) since I have them already. Not sure about the Rotor stem since I like the Enve bar/stem combo look. If I switch out the bars I will change out the stem. I will probably buy the BTP seat post clamp and cages, so I should be down close to 4.82kgs. I know if I really wanted to go light I could to AX bar/stem, but I not sure I want to.

Any ideas to make her lighter, while maintaining stability and functionality would be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:35 am 
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God damn that thing is light.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:13 am 
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This is why having a professional fitter help design your CUSTOM bike is a good idea. No spacer but still good fit could have been possible.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:08 am 
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collegiateRacer wrote:
This is why having a professional fitter help design your CUSTOM bike is a good idea. No spacer but still good fit could have been possible.


I went with a stock frame and got a great deal on her since the dealer wanted to get rid of it. Otherwise I would have gotten the Small Tall version that has a 2cm taller head tube, but I didn't think it was worth ordering a new frame for an additional $3K knowing I can use spacers or flip the stem. Since I'm very flexible, I could flip the stem and slam it and get rid of the spacer without any back issues. I'll continue to ride her as is and then slowly adjust the stem (flip it with the spacer underneath > then reduce the spacer in half > finally remove the spacer and cut the steerer tube).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:46 am 
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sh!t !!! that things make my parlee sound like a pig. I guess 12lbs is sooo 2011. :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:12 am 
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You guysl who ride small bikes really make me jealous. My Z5 is sitting at 6.1 kg in XL size.

I really like your Z3, blacked out and looking mean, enjoy riding it

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:18 am 
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Did you actually weight the bike or calculate just on the parts ?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:25 pm 
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Matt black... *yaaaaaaaawwwwn*


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:36 pm 
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Jeez... Light.

It's a real shame to put tufo tires on this :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:42 pm 
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wshiong wrote:
Did you actually weight the bike or calculate just on the parts ?


That was my thought.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:52 pm 
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gumgardner wrote:
wshiong wrote:
Did you actually weight the bike or calculate just on the parts ?


That was my thought.


Here's the pics of the scale:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:44 pm 
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Fantastic. A Z5 and a Colnago C59 are pretty much the only bikes in my list if I was to get a new frame right now. My questions to you is how is the shifting with with a salad combination of parts (Campy shifter and der, cables and housings, rings, cranks, etc)?? Nothing shifts smoother than an all Campy SR group, so how far from that perfection are you with all these part combos??


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Rich-Ti wrote:
Matt black... *yaaaaaaaawwwwn*


I decided to matte black her out since all my other bikes are glossy with much more color. I hope to have pics of my Wilier Cento Uno SL later today and my Wilier Imperiale later in the week. You'll probably like the looks of those better as I get more compliment from others versus the Z3, although they are amazed the Z3 is so light and I ride the Z3 almost exclusively now.

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dgasmd wrote:
Fantastic. A Z5 and a Colnago C59 are pretty much the only bikes in my list if I was to get a new frame right now. My questions to you is how is the shifting with with a salad combination of parts (Campy shifter and der, cables and housings, rings, cranks, etc)?? Nothing shifts smoother than an all Campy SR group, so how far from that perfection are you with all these part combos??


a c59 cant go lower than 5kg.. if you need a weenie bike.

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sholiday,

I am a bit shame if i compare my z3 build list with yours,mine cost almost double your build price but its more heavy, great choice you have there :oops:

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