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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:33 pm 
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Oh man that is awful!! What frames would you be interested in and what dimensions would fit? I am always buying and selling new frames and bikes and would love to pass on a great deal if one comes my way!! Another forum I am on, Slowtwitch, has a topics discussing good and bad sellers for users to read before buying maybe an Admin can sticky those to the For Sale section and they can be looked at before a purchase.

Well im looking for either pinarello paris or prince between 2008-2009 with 50 on seat tube. But because of what happened, my budget for bike has been busted as it was my last piece of puzzle to complete the project bike. I am also open for de rosa, time vxrs, or anything thats similar. Just drop me a message if u have any good deal, let me see whether i can fork out some money somewhere :). I now see the admin do some good note to let everyone know not to use paypal as gift, and i appreciate that. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:53 pm 
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I've yet to have a single issue with purchasing on this forum, but I tend to shy away from new posters. Not to say that they aren't trustful, but its pretty easy to troll for a few months and then unload something huge.

Also, as a paypal warning, always offer to eat the fee or ask if they can share it with you. Only way to ensure things in a case where something has gone wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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Totally freaking sucks. :evil:

Member Chiva is an awesome seller :thumbup: He sent me a PayPal invoice for a transaction, something other sellers might think of doing.

I really hope the OP is made whole again, either frame or $

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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Did you pay Paypal with your credit card? Perhaps there's some recourse there? I'm sure you've saved your correspondence with the "seller"

Anything I buy using Paypal I tend to use my credit card for the payment.. My thinking is that if Paypal lets me down maybe my credit card company will back me up...

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Lance is a cheating c**t and now it's proven.

Sorry to hear about that, and good you still recognise the vast majority of people on here are honest.


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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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What a punk! You'll get something good your way while mr. armstrong will probably get a beat down coming his way! Good luck mang!

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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KWalker wrote:
I've yet to have a single issue with purchasing on this forum, but I tend to shy away from new posters. Not to say that they aren't trustful, but its pretty easy to troll for a few months and then unload something huge.

Also, as a paypal warning, always offer to eat the fee or ask if they can share it with you. Only way to ensure things in a case where something has gone wrong.


Sharing the fees is something that i usually do when i sell my car parts online to US. But not everyone feels the same.

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Totally freaking sucks. :evil:

Member Chiva is an awesome seller :thumbup: He sent me a PayPal invoice for a transaction, something other sellers might think of doing.

I really hope the OP is made whole again, either frame or $


Yup, i guess sending invoice is another option to help to protect both seller and buyer.. something to consider

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Did you pay Paypal with your credit card? Perhaps there's some recourse there? I'm sure you've saved your correspondence with the "seller"

Anything I buy using Paypal I tend to use my credit card for the payment.. My thinking is that if Paypal lets me down maybe my credit card company will back me up...


Yeah, ive tryied going to my card company, but they said they money has been more than 2 weeks and the money has been claimed from the bank and there is not much they can do to help unless the transaction is still fresh and the money has not been released and claimed.

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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Well that sucks..

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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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Mate that is totally shit. Could the admin help you with his ISP or internet address? whatever it is called? I don't know.

usually some scum like him will do this over again and bigger scams and finally be dealt with once caught. I feel sorry for you though.


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hope his ball drops off...


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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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Mate that is totally shit. Could the admin help you with his ISP or internet address? whatever it is called? I don't know.

usually some scum like him will do this over again and bigger scams and finally be dealt with once caught. I feel sorry for you though.


not much admin can do i guess.. but posting this to warn other buyers to be careful as well.

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That's really bad!

I had the same happening. Bought some giro shoes from user "nycmtber". He had more than 300 posts and even his own website. Payed with paypal (gift) but never got the shoes and he never answered my mails.
I really cannot understand why a cyclist want to cheat another cyclist.


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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:32 pm 
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Maybe he was cycling and got hit by a car and died? Or maybe he should? Just saying.....

Ape don't kill ape..... always had that saying stuck in my head for situations like this. This sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Unlucky me.
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I am sorry to hear about this!
I do see a trend here to ask for Paypal gift and is usually not on other forums.
Although there is supposed to be no fee. If you use a credit card the buyer still have to pay the fee.
You really have very little recourse when things go wrong, as soon as you use the gift option you opted out from the normal paypal protection. A seller don't have to send your stuff and there is not much you can do.

So just say no to Paypal Gift, find a Paypal fee calculator, offer to pay the fee, or sellers should factor in the cost of Paypal in asking price. Keeps everyone honest.

Many forums have a trader score or separate section to vouch for good/bad users.


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