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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:57 am 
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lcoolb wrote:
Wow, a true dream bike! More photos & info please :)


Sorry for the late reply - i should have new photos in a few more days


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:58 am 
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Tumppi wrote:
lcoolb wrote:
Wow, a true dream bike! More photos & info please :)

+1 :thumbup:

Nice job! You did before us. We are still waiting EPS parts to arrive... :?
http://www.pellossalo.fi/teambikes/



Very nice bikes- hope u get the EPS soon


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:03 am 
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Powerful Pete wrote:
:welcome:

Impressive bike. Tell us more.

Not for the shy types, of course... :wink:


Thanks - its taken 2 weeks to build - took it to the LBS to have EPS installed. They were pretty fussy and wanted to make sure it was done correctly - The EPS system is another level all together. Pretty hard to describe without taking it for a ride. The system is very repsonsive, crisp, and the multishift options is great. It a true electronic group set- with multiple setup options and changes for the the rear and front Derailliuer
Should have more photos soon.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:11 am 
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Powerful Pete wrote:
Please do tell us what you think of EPS!


EPS system is truely great system. I was very sceptical coming from cable/ friction driven systems.
Shifting is fast, reponsive , and you dont really have to think about easying off when shifting the FD, like the mechanical systems -its bullet proof.
Took it out in a rain drenched day for 6 hours and it didnt skip a beat. The beauty of this is that theres little maintenance involved eg: - cable stretch etc.. . not changing gears correctly etc.. (unfortunately you do pay a premium - but you do appreciate the engineering involved)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:16 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:49 am 
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samw wrote:
Tumppi wrote:
lcoolb wrote:
Wow, a true dream bike! More photos & info please :)

+1 :thumbup:

Nice job! You did before us. We are still waiting EPS parts to arrive... :?
http://www.pellossalo.fi/teambikes/



Very nice bikes- hope u get the EPS soon


Thanks, EPS parts delivery is bit late, but we really hope that we get items inside 1-2 weeks.

One question?
How you routed the wire from battery to the RD?
1) Whole way internal, from above BB and then inside the chainstay
2) like the mechanical cable under the BB and then inside the chainstay
3) Thrue the BB shell and then inside the chainstay

I have been thinking to put battery under the BB with this specific Look adapton kit and then enlarge the existing hole just in front of BB and then assemply all the wires internal using this method no.1. And yes, our frames are not Di2 frames, just normal frames for mechanical groups.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:25 pm 
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I would recommend you Drill the same holes as in the current DI2 - Look frames. ( you might void your warranty on the frame)

Holes drilled will include

- 1 between the cage mount on the down tube
- 1 just under the braze on front derailleur
- Battery wire to rear derailleur was fed through the hole between the bottle cage screw plates.
- Chain stay exit hole was widened a bit using a Dremel 8200 Series drill to allow for the cable to the rear derailleur to exit.
- Cables in the bottom bracket was passed above cranks - stuck onto the inside of the frame using common "blu tack" - (just incase you need to remove it again for any future maintenance) - this also stops cable rattle or noise.
- As yours is a not DI2 frame - its safer to mount battery using the bottle cage mounts instead - else you would have to drill into or near the bottom bracket to mount the battery underneath using the adaption kit.
- I almost forget - you will need to buy an additional front derailleur Stiffness increaser (Part code=FD-SR001EPS) as the carbon braze on, on the Look 695 frame is not strong enough for the front derailleur motor. You can buy this from Campagnolo through your local bike shop - please use the product code listed


My Local Bike shop were pretty fussy and didn't want to modify the frame too much - big shout to Steward from (CWC) "he designed carbon plates to fit over the exit mounts that were drilled to fit feed cable to the rear derailleur"

Hope this helps


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Thanks for you honest opinion! I have been working these Look frames a lot. I'm a not "Look dealer", but not a normal home mechanic either.
As you can see here drilling holes for Look 695 is not new to me? :twisted:
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I'm sure there is no warranty problems with Lookcycle with us, because our team is working quite close with Lookcycle all the time. :roll:
As you said I have to drill one hole under the FD, but this Look di2 apaption kit attached to same bolt under the BB as original cable guide, and so I only have to enlarge the existing hole under the downtube to fit battery box and put the wires through internally all the way to the RD and FD. But if that doesn't work for some reason, second option for battery is that like you said.

And Yes, Look 695 is a really NICE frameset, best of all I would say. :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:11 pm 
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I like your photo - your pritty game i must say. But like you said your are working with LOOK so it shouldn't be a problem. Carbon as you already know is super strong, drilling won't be a problem.
Looking at the current DI2 Look 695 frames- its seems that haven't modified the frame especially for them - (i.e.: no new carbon mould)- they've just drilled the holes straight after its come out of the press plates.


The 695 Frames are great and ride is incredible .. what would you expect from a company who designed the first carbon frame. Look are very innovative company, you just have to look at the 695 and its ZED2 - 1 piece crank (320grams), and Look C stem -- way in front of other bikes manufacturers.

Good luck when the EPS arrives - please keep me informed on progress


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:47 pm 
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Very nicely done. If there was ever a bike screaming out for Look pedals, that is it...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Quality enjoy it, :thumbup:

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Of all the bikes I've ever seen, the Mondrian is the most appealing to me. Its hard to explain since I am usually not too interested in exotic paint schemes, but this is really fine. Very nice job! I hope it rides as good as it looks!!

KAC


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:54 am 
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I agree. I think Look got it just right with the Mondrian...

A fantastic bike - well done!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:19 am 
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kac wrote:
Of all the bikes I've ever seen, the Mondrian is the most appealing to me. Its hard to explain since I am usually not too interested in exotic paint schemes, but this is really fine. Very nice job! I hope it rides as good as it looks!!

KAC



Thanks for your words - it is a great ride - stiff and responsive


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And after a certain 'hollywood' saw the gruppo, you've converted him to electronic!

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