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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:53 am 
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I've built up a light-weight "enduro"-fully, and now I'm asking you for some suggestions about saving some more weight but without a loss of performance or stiffness. For example I want a lighter fork, but with adjustable travel and at least 120mm of travel. What do you think about the Manitou Black Super Air or the new Minute III? I saw the new Pace RC40 at the Eurobike, looks very nice, too. I'm 70kg.

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Frame: Nicolai Helius CC, 2450g
Rear shock: DT Swiss SSD 210L, 236g (w/ bushings)
Fork: Rock Shox Psylo SL, 1940g
Stem: Syntace F99, 120mm, 107g
Ahead Cap/Nut/Bolt: 25g
Handlebar: Extralite Ultrabar, 110g
Grips: Foam, 18g
Pedals: Bebop Stainless, 198g
Seatpost: Extralight The Post, 180g
Clamp: Extralight The Clamp, 12g
Saddle: Selle Italia SLR, 135g
Headset: Tioga Factory SL, 70g
Brakes: Magura Marta, 740g
Skewers: Shimano XT, 120g
Wheelset: Hügi 240 disc/DT Competition/DT XR 4.1d, 1710g (inkl. rim tape)
Shifters: Shimano Deore, 270g
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR short cage, 207g
Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR, 120g
Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT, 255g
Cranks: Shimano XT, 647g
Cassette: Dura Ace 11-27 w/ Tune Edelzwicker, 173g
Chain: Shimano CN7701, 104pcs, 260g
Tires: depends, at the moment Schwalbe Big Jim light 2,25", 1140g
Tubes: Schwalbe XX-light, 198g
Cables: Nokon Konkavex, black, 80g
Bottle Cage: Tune Wasserträger, 9g

Total weight: 11.412g

Not so bad for that stiff longtravel-bike I think.

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Sounds like a nice ride dude.
Please post some pics I love Nicolai bikes....wish I had bought one instead of my Extralite sometimes!

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I only got this picture, it's half a year old and with some other parts. Also the quality isn't that good. But I'm going to lent me a good camera to take some better fotos which are up to date.

But I can tell you: Kalle Nicolai's bikes are one of the best out there.


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Wow very nice I love the black stealth look!
I look forward to seeing some updated pics, maybe some closer shots of the frame would be great.
Whats the frame made out of, how much travel have you got, whats the ride like?

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The frame is made of EASTON Ultra light tubes, 7005/7020 aircraft alloy, many cnc-machined parts. It's just beautifull! Frame is anodizised black, offers between 88 and 129mm of travel, recommended fork travel: 100-130mm. This is one of the great advantages of this bike: it's convertible from CC to "light" FR-riding, with a perfect 4link design rear end. "The idea behind this design is simple: minimize the influence the chain has on activating the shock under pedaling loads - the result is a full suspension design which has fantastic pedaling characteristics even with long travel frames", that's what Nicolai says, and he's right with it. I didn't need a lockout in this bike, I tested it with a Fox Float R Itch (OEM Specialized Enduro rear shock with adjustable travel) and only replaced it by the DT SSD 210L to save approx. 60g there (besides that the DT is diong a great job). It is very stiff, and Nicolai gives you a 5-year warranty even under race-conditions.

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Nicolai makes some of the best bikes out there i was actully considering of getting one but the price turned me away... Its cheaper to get a custom.


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That's true: the Helius CC frame costs 1799,- Euros, add 300,- Euros for custommade frames. But you get what you pay for, other labels are as expensive as Nicolai or even more expensive. And who else gives you a 5-years warranty even under competition conditions. Handcrafted frames are always that expensive, but high end = high price in most cases. A cheap hardtailframe is often almost as good as a very expensive one, you pay very much for saving some more weight e.g.

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If i got the Nicolai Argon custom geometry it wouldve cost me like close to $2000 USD ! :shock:

But seriously probably best warranty in the industry !


Not mine but this korean guys Nicolai.


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Well, I could buy a Argon custommade here in Germany for 999,- Euros (frame) + max. 300,- Euros (custommade), that's 1560,- USD. So if anyone's interessted. Other frames should be cheaper here as well.

But I wanted some suggestions for my Helius CC, as I wrote above. In addition to the forks I meantioned above I was thinking about a Fox Talas.

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Finally some new pictures, qualitiy isn't very good...


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