Scott scale vs Giant xtc composite 05

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hawkpower
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by hawkpower

nino wrote:
erty65 wrote:Which will be the lightest build?

lightest build is still the 2002 or 2003 Scott Team Issue SCANDIUM frames!!!

the V-brake version of the Scale weighs a real 1050g in size M (it also has the disc-adapters on)
+full lenght cable housings all over...+1.5m housings and cables...+90g
+oversize diameter seatpost (34.9).you will need a shim for any lightweight seatpost....+20g
+oversize seatpost clamp....+5g
+E-type front derailleur......+30g compared to Dura-Ace
+4cm shorter seattube makes for 4cm longer seatposts.....+12g

so we have
1050+90+20+5+30+12 = 1207g

my 2002 Team Issue weighs 1146g in size M......1207-1046 = 61g

so the 1900 euro Scale is 60g heavier than my soon 3 year old frame -HA!


Hallo Nino do you now if the 04 Frame lighter or heavier as the 03or 02

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Where are you Vizor?

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Bruiser wrote:Where are you Vizor?


I'm from french . Saturday I spok with a salesman and he said the first Scale was assembled last week .

Glad to see you here Tib ! :D

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by hawkpower

i have seen in Munic at the 6Days Race the first Sacle LTD

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by compositepro

Tippster wrote::exactly:


You would think a company such as Scott would do the sums (as in Nino's post) when developing new frames . . .


would i trust a composite frame for freeride

in a word no sums are fantastic for linear and non linear studies
impact resistance of carbon forget it
cp

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by Dennis

Hallo Nino do you now if the 04 Frame lighter or heavier as the 03or 02


I just received my frame in waranty, this will be the 04 frame. This is for my 02 frame. My 02 frame weighs 1280 gram in XL and my 04 frame weighs 1250 gram in XL. This is both with canti-studs.

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what happened to your 02 frame? :o

Dennis
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by Dennis

A very small crack in the crossing of the upper tube and the seatpost tube. It was a crack of 1 cm max. I have driven the frame until I got the new one. The frame is replaced within 2 weeks. Great service :thumbup:

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Dennis wrote:A very small crack in the crossing of the upper tube and the seatpost tube. It was a crack of 1 cm max. I have driven the frame until I got the new one. The frame is replaced within 2 weeks. Great service :thumbup:


Very good !
Scott Scale 10 .

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Dennis wrote:A very small crack in the crossing of the upper tube and the seatpost tube. It was a crack of 1 cm max. I have driven the frame until I got the new one. The frame is replaced within 2 weeks. Great service :thumbup:


Do you have a picture of the crack?

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by Dennis

Do you have a picture of the crack?


No sorry, my dealer has kept the frame, probably send it to Scott i guess.

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by hawkpower

weight of giant xtc composite is 1214 gr.
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The Scott Scale frame weighs only 1.9lbs!! about 400 - 500 grams lighter than the xtc.

Stevie

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What do you say? :laughat:

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i think stevie means the scott Road Frame CR1 1,9lbs = 870gr.

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