My bike - 9548g - needs to get lighter...
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Hi,
could you guys help me get my bike lighter?
I have no digi-cam so I can’t upload any pictures. (I know you would like some.)
But I’m planning on getting the bike light enough for the Weight weenies-articles. And then I'll buy a digi-cam too.
Frame
Principia MSLe Pro 18,5"
1450 Gram
Suspension Fork
Rock Shox Duke SL 100mm
1608 Gram
Headset
Principia ellipse (made by Chris King)
140 Gram
Ahead Cap
USE top cap
8 Gram
Starnut
removed
0 Gram
Stem
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
104 Gram
Handlebar
Ritchey WCS
130 Gram
Bar ends
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
118 Gram
Grips, Plugs
Ritchey WCS
54 Gram
Seat post
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
245 Gram
Seat post clamp
Extralite The Clamp (Ti-bolt)
14 Gram
Saddle
Selle Italia SLR
144 Gram
STI
Shimano XTR tuned (Ti-bolts)
390 Gram
Brakes
Avid Single Digit Ti
322 Gram
Wheels
Hügi 240, Mavic X517, DT Revolution / Super Comp
1478 Gram
Rim tape
Black extra strong tape
12 Gram
Skewers
Mounty Special Lite Axles (Bolt on)
64 Gram
Front tire
Conti Explorer Protection 2,1"
522 Gram
Rear tire
Conti Vertical Protection 2,3"
630 Gram
Tubes
Conti Supersonic / Schwalbe XX-Light
191 Gram
Bottom bracket
Tune AC38 113mm
156 Gram
Crank arms
Tune Bigfoot 175mm
395 Gram
Crank bolts
Tune Goldaugen + Plop
34 Gram
Chain rings
TA Spezialities 46/36, Tune Triebtreter 24Z
130 Gram
Chain ring bolts
Tune K1-3
17 Gram
Chain
Rohloff SLT-99
300 Gram
Cassette
Shimano XTR 11-32
240 Gram
Front derailleur
Shimano XTR (Ti-bolts)
114 Gram
Rear derailleur
Shimano XTR (Ti-bolts)
231 Gram
Pedals
Eggbeater triple-Ti
186 Gram
Cables
Jagwire Ripcord brake cable
Gore normal shift cable for the front derailleur
Gore UL-cable for the rear derailleur
85 Gram
Bottle cages
B-T-P Carbon Bottle Cages (for non-conic bottles)
30 Gram
Bottle cage bolts
Al-bolts
2 Gram
Chainstayprotect
Lots of black tape
4 Gram
Total Weight
9548 Gram
I think about a SRAM hollow-pin chain…. But how about the durability?
Any lighter and better suggestions here perhaps? How about the KMC for exaple?
I think about an AX-Lightness endurance saddle – but it irritates me that someone (I think the German) broke it at the Olympics.
A nice, new (or old model) and lighter fork in black would be nice (80mm travel) but I’m really concerned about the performance of lightweight-forks.
A carbon-handlebar would be nice but I think my Bar-ends might be a problem here.
I thought about some light bar ends too – but on the other hand I like the shape of the long Ritchey’s pretty damn much.
I want absolute puncture-proof tires.
I don’t think that the headset can be changed.
The seat post has to be 31,6mm (I wan't no shim) and at least 350mm.
This bike is for offroad use only.
could you guys help me get my bike lighter?
I have no digi-cam so I can’t upload any pictures. (I know you would like some.)
But I’m planning on getting the bike light enough for the Weight weenies-articles. And then I'll buy a digi-cam too.
Frame
Principia MSLe Pro 18,5"
1450 Gram
Suspension Fork
Rock Shox Duke SL 100mm
1608 Gram
Headset
Principia ellipse (made by Chris King)
140 Gram
Ahead Cap
USE top cap
8 Gram
Starnut
removed
0 Gram
Stem
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
104 Gram
Handlebar
Ritchey WCS
130 Gram
Bar ends
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
118 Gram
Grips, Plugs
Ritchey WCS
54 Gram
Seat post
Ritchey WCS (Ti-bolts)
245 Gram
Seat post clamp
Extralite The Clamp (Ti-bolt)
14 Gram
Saddle
Selle Italia SLR
144 Gram
STI
Shimano XTR tuned (Ti-bolts)
390 Gram
Brakes
Avid Single Digit Ti
322 Gram
Wheels
Hügi 240, Mavic X517, DT Revolution / Super Comp
1478 Gram
Rim tape
Black extra strong tape
12 Gram
Skewers
Mounty Special Lite Axles (Bolt on)
64 Gram
Front tire
Conti Explorer Protection 2,1"
522 Gram
Rear tire
Conti Vertical Protection 2,3"
630 Gram
Tubes
Conti Supersonic / Schwalbe XX-Light
191 Gram
Bottom bracket
Tune AC38 113mm
156 Gram
Crank arms
Tune Bigfoot 175mm
395 Gram
Crank bolts
Tune Goldaugen + Plop
34 Gram
Chain rings
TA Spezialities 46/36, Tune Triebtreter 24Z
130 Gram
Chain ring bolts
Tune K1-3
17 Gram
Chain
Rohloff SLT-99
300 Gram
Cassette
Shimano XTR 11-32
240 Gram
Front derailleur
Shimano XTR (Ti-bolts)
114 Gram
Rear derailleur
Shimano XTR (Ti-bolts)
231 Gram
Pedals
Eggbeater triple-Ti
186 Gram
Cables
Jagwire Ripcord brake cable
Gore normal shift cable for the front derailleur
Gore UL-cable for the rear derailleur
85 Gram
Bottle cages
B-T-P Carbon Bottle Cages (for non-conic bottles)
30 Gram
Bottle cage bolts
Al-bolts
2 Gram
Chainstayprotect
Lots of black tape
4 Gram
Total Weight
9548 Gram
I think about a SRAM hollow-pin chain…. But how about the durability?
Any lighter and better suggestions here perhaps? How about the KMC for exaple?
I think about an AX-Lightness endurance saddle – but it irritates me that someone (I think the German) broke it at the Olympics.
A nice, new (or old model) and lighter fork in black would be nice (80mm travel) but I’m really concerned about the performance of lightweight-forks.
A carbon-handlebar would be nice but I think my Bar-ends might be a problem here.
I thought about some light bar ends too – but on the other hand I like the shape of the long Ritchey’s pretty damn much.
I want absolute puncture-proof tires.
I don’t think that the headset can be changed.
The seat post has to be 31,6mm (I wan't no shim) and at least 350mm.
This bike is for offroad use only.
Principia MSLe Pro 9543g
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
Go for the biggest and most effective weight loss first! Changing chains will not make a heck of a difference...
I would go for lighter tires. You can lose appr. 500grams by swapping them for something lighter, at minimal cost. If you do not ride your bike on rocky terrain a lot, you do not really need your full knob, heavy duty tires.
Be carefull though: Lighter tires are less puncture resistant. Especially if you run superlight inner tubes in them. I would consider switching to some latex solution (DT/eclipse or Stan's tubeless kit) to keep yourself safe, while not having to fill your tires to 3,5 bar and losing a lot of traction.
Changing your fork to a SID would lighten the bike by another 300grms depending on type. An SLR saddle is as comfortable as your Ritchey, but weighs some 100 grms less.
I would go for lighter tires. You can lose appr. 500grams by swapping them for something lighter, at minimal cost. If you do not ride your bike on rocky terrain a lot, you do not really need your full knob, heavy duty tires.
Be carefull though: Lighter tires are less puncture resistant. Especially if you run superlight inner tubes in them. I would consider switching to some latex solution (DT/eclipse or Stan's tubeless kit) to keep yourself safe, while not having to fill your tires to 3,5 bar and losing a lot of traction.
Changing your fork to a SID would lighten the bike by another 300grms depending on type. An SLR saddle is as comfortable as your Ritchey, but weighs some 100 grms less.
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I ride a lot of smaller and bigger rocks actually - and some mud too.
Lighter tires with heavier tubes are a good idea though.
Any specific tubes&tires recommendations?
I really have thought a lot about the SID but I've heard some not nice things about it at www.mtbr.com.
Some peoble talk about maintenance every 1/2 year. My Duke rides 2 years without anything.
I don't understand the saddle thing your talking about - what ritchey?
Lighter tires with heavier tubes are a good idea though.
Any specific tubes&tires recommendations?
I really have thought a lot about the SID but I've heard some not nice things about it at www.mtbr.com.
Some peoble talk about maintenance every 1/2 year. My Duke rides 2 years without anything.
I don't understand the saddle thing your talking about - what ritchey?
Last edited by Mulle on Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Principia MSLe Pro 9543g
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
For the bar ends and the seatpost, I think you should take a look to Extralite components.
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I looked a bit on the SID Race (and the Team) again. (Looks like the 2004 version are performing better then the poor 2003 models.)
I think I'll take it to a test.
I think the Dura Ace tripple Front derailleur that is about 10 grams lighter isn't any good option. The XTR shifts better in the terrain.
The Extralite seatpost is 360mm at most - but having to insert it 90mm it is too short in overall compared to my Ritchey WCS 350mm.
The Extralite bar ends are a possibility - but I like the shape of my ritchey bar ends better. (I've added a picture of these)
I think I'll take it to a test.
I think the Dura Ace tripple Front derailleur that is about 10 grams lighter isn't any good option. The XTR shifts better in the terrain.
The Extralite seatpost is 360mm at most - but having to insert it 90mm it is too short in overall compared to my Ritchey WCS 350mm.
The Extralite bar ends are a possibility - but I like the shape of my ritchey bar ends better. (I've added a picture of these)
Principia MSLe Pro 9543g
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
If you accidently had to, could your bike take a smaller downhill ?
I think that the components you have now are a very good compromise between weight and performance. If you want to reduce weight without loosing performance, you can concentrate yourself on fork (SID is OK), saddle (Tune), Grips, Crank arms (Stork).
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