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Main questions is your budget, since weight can be dropped from almost all items. Some things I'd consider first, because these are relatively cheap or save over 100g:
1. You seem to use very heavy stock expander plug, possibly about 50g. A regular star nut weights about 5g. Other options are knockoff Ultrastars by J&L.
2. For under 1000USD you can easily build a ~1300g wheelset.
3. X0 crankset weights about 460g. Maybe look for a used one? It will also require a direct mount chainring.
4. Ti pedals. For example, Xpedo M-Force 8 Ti are about 218g.
1. You seem to use very heavy stock expander plug, possibly about 50g. A regular star nut weights about 5g. Other options are knockoff Ultrastars by J&L.
2. For under 1000USD you can easily build a ~1300g wheelset.
3. X0 crankset weights about 460g. Maybe look for a used one? It will also require a direct mount chainring.
4. Ti pedals. For example, Xpedo M-Force 8 Ti are about 218g.
Last edited by Klaster_1 on Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
I was also gonna say a used carbon crank and Xpedo M8-Ti pedals. You can get a chinese carbon wheelset around 1400g for sub $600. Those 3 parts will get you under 20lbs and at that point you have a really light bike that's not gonna give up anything to your competition on climbs. At that point choosing the fastest rolling tire that has appropriate durability and grip for the course becomes the main concern.
Lelandjt wrote:I was also gonna say a used carbon crank and Xpedo M8-Ti pedals. You can get a chinese carbon wheelset around 1400g for sub $600. Those 3 parts will get you under 20lbs and at that point you have a really light bike that's not gonna give up anything to your competition on climbs. At that point choosing the fastest rolling tire that has appropriate durability and grip for the course becomes the main concern.
For 1400g I would probably have to build up my own wheels?
I have had a look at the wheels with novatech hubs and I think they come in around 1600-1700.
Carbon rims would probably be a nice performance upgrade.
I'm onto getting a new headset now.
Nice and cheap upgrade per grams.
I've been keeping an eye out for cheap pedals too
Budget wise I dont really want to spend more than $500 (I could sell existing wheels to cover a new set)
Hmm, at a $500 budget wheels might be out of reach. You won't get much for your used pair. To get a light set from Nextie, LB, etc you have to upgrade to the hubs above Novatec. They usually have some no name Asian hub that's nearly as light as DT 240s. Here's a more affordable option: Look for the weight of your hubs. If they're decent consider buying some Light-Bicycle, Nextie, or Farsports rims and lacing them to your hubs. You may even get lucky and be able to re-use your current spokes (if they're double butted). The value here is only if you can build wheels or have a friend to do it for free. I think wheel builders charge like $150-200 per pair which on top of the $350 rims would blow your budget.
Used carbon crank, Ti pedals, and two different sets of tires are sounding pretty good.
Used carbon crank, Ti pedals, and two different sets of tires are sounding pretty good.
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You can also get thru axles for under half your current weights quite reasonably from Someone like Mt Zoom, or even lighter from Extralite
"We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities." Oscar Wilde
Some more stuff. Thru axle, as noted by bikewithnoname, are among cheapest options. d36, I think you can also cut the seatpost for 10-20g saving, it looks like 30cm out of 35-40cm out of frame.
Prices are from r2-bike, ebay and manufacturers, with VAT.
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Model saving price eur/g
EXTRALITE Black Lock Fox 55g 79EUR 1.43
EXTRALITE Black Lock e-thru 51.5g 79EUR 1.53
MT ZOOM Ultralight FOX axle 44g 38EUR 0.86
MT ZOOM Ultralight e-thru axle 41g 42EUR 1.02
Darimo T1 350mm 27.2mm 116g 279EUR 2.4
Hylix 400mm 27.2mm 48g 62.7EUR 1.3
Gelu g.2 saddle 91g 270EUR 2.96
SRAM XG-1199 10-42 139g 257.5EUR 1.84
Magura MT-8 168g 394EUR 2.34
MT ZOOM Ultralight clamp 31.8mm 15g 21.3EUR 1.42
RD-M9000 95g 167EUR 1.75
Prices are from r2-bike, ebay and manufacturers, with VAT.
Realistically you need to set your budget and work out the best weight savings you can get for that budget.
As noted above there are a fair few options and I'll add in Bars (circa 120-130g is fairly easy) and tyres (depending on surface).
As noted above there are a fair few options and I'll add in Bars (circa 120-130g is fairly easy) and tyres (depending on surface).
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I would upgrade crankset and pedals. Since they are rotational weight and you will feel more difference in performance especially uphill.
RaceFace Next SL (445g) can be found for $250
M9000 XTR race pedals 310g can be found new at $80. (I got mine for $74 new at backcountry)
Splurge rest of your budget on Mt.Zoom bars, and maybe new headset.
RaceFace Next SL (445g) can be found for $250
M9000 XTR race pedals 310g can be found new at $80. (I got mine for $74 new at backcountry)
Splurge rest of your budget on Mt.Zoom bars, and maybe new headset.
Including build costs I can get dt swiss 350 hubs, rims and spokes for approx $700 (looking at around 28mm internal and mid range spokes)
Theres also prebuilt wheels like these for a bit cheaper but i haven't found much on powerway hubs
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 0.0.pvhrCW
Theres also prebuilt wheels like these for a bit cheaper but i haven't found much on powerway hubs
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 0.0.pvhrCW
d36 wrote:Including build costs I can get dt swiss 350 hubs, rims and spokes for approx $700 (looking at around 28mm internal and mid range spokes)
Theres also prebuilt wheels like these for a bit cheaper but i haven't found much on powerway hubs
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 0.0.pvhrCW
At first that wheelset looked like a good deal but that weight isn't great. 28mm is wider than you need. Try to find a narrower, lighter rim. I wouldn't be shy about using those (or other generic Asian) hubs. Everything I've seen for the last 5 years has been solid but find the weight on them so you know you're not buying boat anchor hubs. BTW, Pillar 1420 spokes are good. They're copies of CX-Ray/Aerolites and nearly as light.
pedals for sure.
Front q/r maxle - get one that is done up using allen key.
Chain: kmc x11sl
SRAM 42-10 cassette about 100g less but needs to have XD driver; your wheels may not be compatible
SRAM X01 derailleur and shifter are lighter than Shimano.
Front q/r maxle - get one that is done up using allen key.
Chain: kmc x11sl
SRAM 42-10 cassette about 100g less but needs to have XD driver; your wheels may not be compatible
SRAM X01 derailleur and shifter are lighter than Shimano.
Well my budget is blown!
The xpedo pedals were on sale so I splurged
I ended up going for 25mm internal on 350 hubs ($575 inc postage)
On paper should be about 1500 depending on rim weight
I feel a bit better knowing that the hubs will be easy to service
Replaced bits of my headset as suggested
Cut my steerer and seatpost
Bike should be just below 9.3 kg now
The xpedo pedals were on sale so I splurged
I ended up going for 25mm internal on 350 hubs ($575 inc postage)
On paper should be about 1500 depending on rim weight
I feel a bit better knowing that the hubs will be easy to service
Replaced bits of my headset as suggested
Cut my steerer and seatpost
Bike should be just below 9.3 kg now
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