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What type of sealant do you use and why?
1. Eclipse 15%  15%  [ 3 ]
2. Stans 35%  35%  [ 7 ]
3. Home made 35%  35%  [ 7 ]
4. UST Standard [non ust tires with sealant] 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
5. UST standard [ust tires] 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
6. UST standard [ust tires with sealant] 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
7. Nagesti [non ust tires] 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
8. Nagesti [nagesti or ust tires] 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
9. Nagesti [nagesti or ust tires with sealant] 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes: 20
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:53 pm 
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Please answer the poll and state why :)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:32 pm 
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Using Stans rimstrip and sealant.

Set-Up - Bontrager Race Lite MTB UST wheels with the plastic rim strip removed and the Stan's Rim strip in place. Use Conti Explorer Pro-tec tires.

Love the lower pressure allowance without the worries of pinch flats. Aslo lots of goat-head thorns were I ride and don't have to worry about those either. I do ride in some rocky areas so I'm running the Conti tires with the pro-tec side walls. Basically 15 grams more than the regular tires but I get the side wall protection from sharp rocks.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:37 pm 
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trying to use home-made because i am poor :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:17 am 
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You should have added one for good old tubes :wink:

I gave up with them because of the mess and I enjoy using Yes Tubes :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:43 am 
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nikh wrote:
You should have added one for good old tubes :wink:

I gave up with them because of the mess and I enjoy using Yes Tubes :lol:


lmao! I looked at the yestubes site, that's a riot! :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:38 am 
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how do you guys make home-made tubes? :?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:27 am 
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stans because it was the first one I was introduced to. Run all wheels as tubeless(regular tires not UST0 except for my single spped, which i could not get the 2.35's to seal. So I got tubes with screw out valves and but the stans in the tubes.

I also put some stans in my tubes on my training road wheels. Have not had a puncture yet and i go dirt road a lot (conti all season tires)


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:34 am 
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I use UST without sealant because I like the increased grip and lowered rolling resistance of tubeless. On the other hand I regularly switch between 3 pairs of tires (Conti Explorer UST, Conti Twister YesTubes and Conti GrandPrix YesTubes) and therefore don't use sealant...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:07 am 
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I must say that I have not used tubeless systems.

I'm put off by the fact that I change my tyres once a week and therefore use 1.5/1.75 Maxxiss Flyweight tubes (81g each).

The weight gain appears very minimal, although I have heard the arguements along the lines of rolling resistence and pucture proofing etc.

Depending on weather and terrain, I run 35 to 40 psi and suffer very few punctures. Rolling resistence, I cant comment on as I havent run tubeless.


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Stylomilo wrote:
how do you guys make home-made tubes? :?


Look at:link if you mean tubeless, and not tubes.

@ nikh, Yes tubes is funny! they completely overrule the use of tubeless :lol:

I have had good experiences with changeing tires. Only one negative, the complete tire exploding. Which decorated me green! :lol:

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Which sealants is the best for using in ROAD tubulars and how much weight does it ad?


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I think it doesnt matter. Are road rims drilled? if not try eclipse or homemade! Oh, wait, tubulars. Then i think it should be eclipse. Very good available in europe too.

Why don't you activate the sealants topic in the road forum. This is interresting!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:32 pm 
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Good idea, Frankie, I will do it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:01 pm 
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I am using crossmax SL wheels, regular tires with Eclipse valves and home made latex solution. Works great! Lots of grip, low weight, very low rolling resistance. German mag "Bike" tested Eclipse - the difference in rolling resistance between the same tire with tube or with latex was about the same as the difference between a semi-slick and a full knob tire!

I have sealed these tires succesfully: Maxxis Flyweight 330 (seals instantly...), Schwalbe FastFred 2.0, Fast Fred 2.35, Little Albert,Skinny Jimmy, even my old Ritchey Z-max WCS 1.9 sealed perfectly.

Note: I live in the Netherlands... I race on mostly hardpack to sandy or muddy trails, without any rocks whatsoever. If you live in a rocky neighbourhood, you better not use very light Non-UST tires.


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Two days ago I managed to seal a Kenda kozmic lite with the nikh-tubes system on a crossride rim! The best thing was.... I only used a floorpump! 8)

I managed to do it by inserting the mixture and then roll the wheel around. After that pumping it up.

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