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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:54 am 
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Today's I'm riding with 660mm bar in my 29er but I've found a good deal to buy a light weight Extralite KIT composed by a 580mm bar and a stem. Some friends say my bar is already narrow and advice me to move to at least 700mm, but actually I don't feel like I'm needing more control. I really don't feel any lack of control with 660mm bar.

The point is: moving to a narrow bar, will I lose control? Does anybody did the change from a wide to a narrow bar?

Is there anybody using handlebars around 580mm in 29er bikes? How do you feel that?

I'm trying to understand if I can save weight with this kit, without lose control. If the price to be lighter is lack of control, I'll give up this kit.

Actually I have a 580mm in my commute bike, but it doesn't count as experience due to the strictly use on roads. No challenges at all.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:56 am 
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I would never go back to narrow bars. In fact, next time I'm getting new handlebars, I'm looking at going wider (currently 700 mm). I'd say 580 mm is way too narrow, for a modern mountain bike, no matter what size wheels.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:12 pm 
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edson83 wrote:
I'm trying to understand if I can save weight with this kit, without lose control. If the price to be lighter is lack of control, I'll give up this kit.


You could loose weight, but for sure you will loose control.

Buy a tune turnstange and cut a bit if needed. Mine is at 700mm with 106 grams.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:47 pm 
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stuka666 wrote:
edson83 wrote:
I'm trying to understand if I can save weight with this kit, without lose control. If the price to be lighter is lack of control, I'll give up this kit.


You could loose weight, but for sure you will loose control.

Buy a tune turnstange and cut a bit if needed. Mine is at 700mm with 106 grams.


Control? What does that even mean? I ride 580s. I don't feel like I'm suffering from a lack of control. I ride 420s on my road bike (the standard width), a lot less width than on my mountain bike. No roadie complains about a lack of control because their bars are too narrow. This makes zero sense to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:29 pm 
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Have you ever tried wider bars? They make a hell of a difference, they absolutely give you more control. Why do you think that all the top XC racers are on ~700mm bars?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:37 pm 
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If all you ever do is trundle along on rail trails, sure, 580mm bars are fine.

If you are actually riding on mountain bike trails and pushing the limits, I'd go 700mm or wider.

There's a reason that, as courses have become more technical in nature, the bars have gotten wider in the XCO scene. The Wolfram Kurschat, 580mm days are over.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:00 pm 
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I would also not go back to anything narrower than 700mm.

Bear in mind too that narrower bars will require you to buy a longer stem to achieve the same position so it may not be as economical as it first appears.

There is a reason narrow MTB bars are cheap- no-one wants them!!! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:48 am 
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580 is mad narrow. 660 is extremely narrow by today's standards. I'm about 173cm with a slim build. I ride a 720mm on my XC bike and 750mm on my trail bike.I can't imagine myself going any narrower. The wide bar gives you extra leverage when climbing out of the saddle and more control descending rough terrain.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:36 am 
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MikeDee wrote:
stuka666 wrote:
edson83 wrote:
I'm trying to understand if I can save weight with this kit, without lose control. If the price to be lighter is lack of control, I'll give up this kit.


You could loose weight, but for sure you will loose control.

Buy a tune turnstange and cut a bit if needed. Mine is at 700mm with 106 grams.


Control? What does that even mean? I ride 580s. I don't feel like I'm suffering from a lack of control. I ride 420s on my road bike (the standard width), a lot less width than on my mountain bike. No roadie complains about a lack of control because their bars are too narrow. This makes zero sense to me.


I also rode 560mm, and now I'm on a 29er with 700mm. My road bikes are 420, but potatoes are not tomatoes.


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Everyone wrote:
Have you ever tried wider bars? They make a hell of a difference, they absolutely give you more control. Why do you think that all the top XC racers are on ~700mm bars?


I tried my son's bike that has 720s. Admittedly, I only tried them once, but I hated them. I feel I could go wider than what I have, but these were too much.

The only wider flat bars I'm seeing have a 9 degree sweep. Mine have 5. Will a 9 degree sweep work with bar ends, or will they splay out too much?


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