HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 40 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:57 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:54 pm
Posts: 397
Location: USA
Dan, I think he must have meant the tread knobs are bigger on the Onza. Regardless, while a nice looking (and probably riding) tire, the Onza has a claimed weight of 700g... so almost twice the Thunder Burt. Probably a lot more durable and puncture resistant, but they're not in the same league weight-wise.

_________________
Enjoying my Funk


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:57 am 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:39 pm
Posts: 539
Location: Here, there and everywhere
The Canis XC 120TPI 2.00 is claimed 420g and mine came 425-445g. I was just putting this out there as an alternative option if people couldn't stand the funky name from Schwalbe on their bikes :D

The only real disadvantage to the Canis over the Thunder Burt is some extra weight (more like a Racing Ralph) and a lack of higher volume options since anything bigger than the 2.00 and the tread starts to get more Racing Ralph depth than Thunder Burt depth.

I was very close to pressing the button on R2 Bike for a Thunder Burt but though a little more rationally about how often I might use a Semi-Slick with Winter approaching :D


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:00 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:54 pm
Posts: 397
Location: USA
Isn't that 420g for the Canis 26" x 2.0" tire, not the 29" tire? The Onza site says 700g for the 29"x2.25". The Thunder Burt is 420g for a 29er isn't it?

_________________
Enjoying my Funk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:39 pm
Posts: 539
Location: Here, there and everywhere
I am strictly 26 so wouldn't know about the 29 situation :)

26 x 2.00 Onza Canis = ~425g
26 x 2.10 Schwalbe Thunder Burt = ~370g

29 x.2.25 Canis = ~590g
29 x 2.10 Thunder Burt =~400g

It would appear there is a more noticeable advantage of the Schwalbe with 29 inch wheels, however there is not a 29x2.1 Canis available (2.25 is the smallest) for direct comparison to the 2.1 Schwalbe

Does anyone know the casing details for the Thunder Burt? Is this, the Dirty Dan and Furious Fred a lighter casing than the Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic? Although it wouldn't appear so from the Schwalbe website I do remember reading something along these lines in the past...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:30 am
Posts: 69
What's the verdict on these tires for people who have been riding them?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:13 pm
Posts: 367
Location: Finland
My experience so far:
high variation in weight 407g-437g
when you find the correct preasure the feel nice and soft
and have really good grip.
cornering grip similar to racing ralph
these roll fast and I mean really fast

_________________
Fuelled by kofein


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:50 am
Posts: 689
Yesterday evening I got to demo a mountain bike (~7ish miles) that had the Thunder Burt's on them. I have to say, they were a fantastic tire! They rolled like a road tire on pavement, but still had plenty of grip in the corners. Even hit a bit of mud (100 yards or so of winding trail) and didn't have a problem with them! Definitely my next tire!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 13, 2009 5:23 pm
Posts: 627
Location: Denmark
I want a 2.25 version as a rear tire :)

_________________
Cannondale F29 Carbon 1 2013


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:39 pm
Posts: 539
Location: Here, there and everywhere
Just received a pair of these (26x2.1). Some initial impressions before riding:

+ Veeeery light :D 356g and 364g (listed on the box as approx 395g)
+ Tread looks and feels it will ride ridiculously fast- Makes a Ralph look positively aggressive and slow
+ Side knobs are nice and pronounced- Not too much difference here to a Ralph
+ Nice curved tyre profile- no square edge at the side for grip to suddenly drop off without warning
+ Beads were very, very tight to get on a Podium MMX rim. Seems the same as most Schwalbe tyres which have great rim/ bead sealing tubeless but quite porous sidewalls with lots of pin holes
~ Unsure on straight line grip as knobs are very low and compact but should be more than fine with the right pressure I'd imagine. Shall see once ridden!
- Rubber compound feels quite hard and plastic. Schwalbe I've had in the past seem to be the same but soften up with a bit of riding
- Looks to be much lower volume than a 2.1 Ralph

I am just waiting for new wheel bearings then will probably use these for road and tamer trails throughout Winter and stick to muds for steeper, more tech British Winter riding. Then in the Summer I imagine I'll go for a Ralph front and Burt rear for trouble free grip in most conditions. Maybe they'll surprise me and I'll go Burt front and rear in the drier weather who knows :D


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:22 pm 
Offline
Formerly known as wassertreter

Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:08 am
Posts: 1974
Location: Pedal Square
grover wrote:
If you're interested in these and need prior to availabile consider the Hutchinson Black Mamba.

Oooh looks like the perfect tyre for my 650b converted flatbar CX. Somewhat clearance limited setup.

_________________
Bikes: Raw Ti, 650b flatbar CX


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:23 am
Posts: 1021
Location: Poland/Toronto
DanW,

where did you get them from if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

_________________
MSC Koncept Carbon Di2 - 6955g
Leichtkraft Team Carbon - 6868g.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:39 pm
Posts: 539
Location: Here, there and everywhere
R2-Bike. I asked for light tyres and they arrived with the weights marked on the box. Excellent service for Weightweenies!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:20 am
Posts: 35
Location: Warsaw, POLAND
hey, anyone knows if and when 29x2,25 will be realised?
Which weight would you estimate for this size?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:20 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:21 pm
Posts: 33
Location: Estonia
If it is not a typo, then Scott 2015 calalog gives a hint for 2.25. I would assume they present it during Eurobike.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 13, 2009 5:23 pm
Posts: 627
Location: Denmark
On which bike did you see that? 2.1s are listed for Scale and Spark 900 SL as far as I can see.

_________________
Cannondale F29 Carbon 1 2013


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 am 


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 40 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], jooo and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Schwalbe Procore?

in MTB

jacobHansen

4

302

Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:53 am

TheRookie View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Schwalbe One - tubular

in Road

elfuinha

5

2062

Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Carrots View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Schwalbe lugano tubulars

in Everything wheels

russianbear

0

134

Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:02 am

russianbear View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. which Schwalbe tyres for my 650b cannondale scalpel?

in MTB

fivethirtyonepm

7

642

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:04 pm

DanW View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Brand new Schwalbe One tubular 700c 24mm tyres REDUCED

in For sale - Pictures are mandatory 22-3-13

GT8

0

179

Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:34 pm

GT8 View the latest post


cron
It is currently Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:01 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB