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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:45 pm 
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Rear Derailleur M972 XTR Shadow vs M953 vs M952 which is best in all conditions?


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:52 pm 
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why not 971?

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:10 am 
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what shifters are u using? i'd pair 950s with 952 and 970 with 972/1. 953 is a rapid rise rear dee, so shifting will be reversed.


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:06 pm 
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I use grip shift with shimano front and rear ders., I like it much more than shimano shift levers, as i can shift several gears with a small movement. I like it much more than sram with gripshift, because as shimano has a shorter cable ration, the movement in the grip shift it's much smaller than with full sram.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:53 pm 
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I have XT770 shifters. Why I asking, I have problems with M972 in sand, rain and dirty conditions


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:59 am 
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There is no need to make a move back to 952. Change the cable housing, adjust the derailleur precisely and it must work fine.

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:29 am 
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what probs did u have with 972? shifting probs?

maybe a non-exposed rear dee like 960/952/953 could help in blocking out the mud?? hard to clean the embossed "xtr" on 972 too :D


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:59 am 
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If your Der housing is not one uninterrupted piece, make sure you use housing end caps with o-ring seals. If the housing is not prelubed like Shimano sp41 and Jagwire L3/LEX, then lube the cable prior to insertion.
there is no reason why your current setup can't be made to be reasonably tolerant of sand and mud.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:44 am 
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Shorter caged derailleurs for ground clearance?

I used to have an M952 short-caged RD when I started racing and looking at how messy other people's long caged derailleur after muddy races got me sold with short-caged RDs and had all my MTBs installed with Dura-ace RDs on 2x9 setups. Now I want to try XX1 on two bikes and hope I didn't make the wrong decision.


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